To think if you can no longer afford school fees...

Where exactly do you live that this is the case?

That what is the case? That the private schools are struggling to break even? I mean, that's literally happening everywhere! Half of independent schools have fewer than 300 pupils (see Independent Schools Council). If you lose 10 pupils that's a drop in income of, say, £180,000 in a year. On the basis that around 90% of the cost of a school is salaries, it's not hard to see how you go from breaking even to folding in a very short space of time.

I'm in the south east.

Also, I'm not making a "special plea". I'm talking about probable outcomes using what facts we have available? Not everything has to be emotional.

"Half of independent schools have fewer than 300 pupils (see Independent Schools Council"

Yes, and these tend to be primaries, with lower fees. Certainly not charging the average fee for a day secondary.

"I'm in the south east."

Super rural then?

This won’t impact the elite, it’ll just worsen the opportunities for social mobility and widen the gap between rich and poor.

Most intelligent people recognise that.

I honestly think all hope is gone for this country. It’s time for the people who can to get out now.

Who had "leave the country" on their bingo card?

I agree - it will be a tough time for those who have stretched themselves to send their kids private. However, the merchant wankers bankers and those earning a fortune in law and finance will be absolutely fine!

I wouldn't have an issue sending my child to a state school but in all the research I've done, I've yet to see any non-selective state school that is actually better than a private school.

I didn't say "super" rural, I said "rural". And it is pretty rural - the South East isn't just London, you know. But that still doesn't change the fact the schools are still the biggest employer and everything I said remains a real possibility.

Also yes, they are prep schools. All have fees at between (depending on age) £5-7k per term. If you were questioning the cost of losing ten pupils, my figures were accurate.

I don't think that stating private schools are charities makes any sense.
But gloating over stressed parents and kids is pathetic and mean.

Sure.

I know. It's nothing like it is over here, as I said.

As someone else said earlier, the majority of private school kids won't suffer. They will either like us just carry on as frankly an extra 20% is at least fine and budgeted for, or, they will move from a leafy prep to a leafy primary/secondary with the extra going on tutors, music, drama etc etc

The kids I feel desperately sorry for are the ones on bursaries whose parents can't pay the extra and also don't live in the catchment of an ok state school. Our private school has 70% on bursaries because we have been very invested in supporting the brightest in the community. It is such a short sighted and ill informed, politically driven policy

They don't need to, it's a fallacy to think paying off a deficit to ourselves is the most fiscally sound way run an economy trapped in downward spiral.

(Not a Labour Voter)

No, you really aren't aware.

Dc have complex additional needs and EHCPs so that comment makes you look rather foolish imo.

Think about it.

Thats government policy. Tory government policy.

Just wondering where all those fantastic state schools are that people are talking about? Until a couple of months ago ALL schools were dire according to MN. If they are indeed so wonderful and on a par with if not better than private education why are people so vehemently against the latter?
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4991265-are-there-any-teachers-who-still-like-doing-that-job
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4979549-parents-to-be-asked-to-solve-school-attendance-crisis?page=1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5025934-super-strict-uk-secondary-schools

As a parent and advocate of dc with SEN and having had years within the system I stand by what I said. I have no motivation to engage given your last couple of comments. Thanks but no.

I don’t know why you’re so gleeful op. You know this will only serve the elite and enhance the gulf between privately educated and state even further. And why is that? Because the lower end of the private school families will pull out or not even consider it therefore leaving only the even richer and ambitious in these institutions. So long Tarquin, you wretched poor street urchin, and hullo Hugo esq!

That Report above is misleading. An EHCP that names a school - hard to get a private one unless a section 47 special school - won’t attract VAT as those schools are v specific. LAs hold the funds for Send provision so obviously aren’t keen to spend more than they have to and will push hard to show that needs can be met in state mainstream with additional resources.
The idea surely is that as more middle class parents go to state schools the nature of those schools will change as parents/pupils will push for good teaching and work with schools to raise overall standards. So in the end everyone gains - which seems a basic Labour aspiration.
Fears over ‘bad’ schools are often fear of the unknown.

Sounds like our school is going to be closing as a result of this so you can be really happy for the people who have lost their jobs also - oh what fun!

Urgh I just hate the mean spirited crap on here it’s just horrible.
I have dc both in state and in private. The private school is an inner city school - majority of children from a variety of ethnic minority backgrounds, and extremely economically diverse. This will negatively affect a lot of parents and children and it’s sad. The difference it has made to my child is unbelievable- as a middle of the road well behaved child the teachers in her old school barely seemed to know who she was. After I attended the first parents evening for her current school I felt so relieved she was actually being noticed and they had a good grip on where she needs help.
The vat makes little difference to me but I know that is not the case for most and I hate the crowing over it

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/blog/new-statistics-on-education-health-and-care-plans-ehcp-for-children-with-special-educational-needs/