In-laws still serve me food they know I don't like

And the battle can continue.

I'm an Oxford grad, so always happy to debate.

Why is a Vegetarian who is so principled, not coming across as a pain-in-the-ass to mere mortals who have to plan, prepare and cook a meal for a big influx of family guests?

Did the vegetarian not realise in terms of evolution, their brains only grew by hunting other meat food groups? The intelligence needed for hunting is the sole reason you're not on the level of a rabbit or a cow. And they are intelligent - enough - for their level.

Darwin? Survival of the fittest? If humans as vegetarians ruled the world since year dot, humans would not be humans. Suck that up in your non-meat supremacy.

But we're talking about a rarefied group of humans, called vegetarians, mostly who have the luxury to choose and decide what will pass their rarified lips.

How far would you take it? World War III - and world in flames - still going to be a vegetarian?

The problem we all have with "special eaters" is that they don't eat for nutrients.

There are three groups of "special eaters" - and two of them are potential/somewhat/occasional ego-maniacs or narcissists or deluded or idealists.

They have no concept of human evolvement. They want to re-write human as non-animal, but idealistic. The middle ages were great on that.

Your "choose what you eat" - specifically vegetarians and vegans. Most of them can't explain why we're mostly omnivores. Or how we evolved? Or will evolve?

The religious folk. Apparently, if you get a food group wrong, they're insulted and violence is not excluded.

And the allergy group - you know the really scary ones. If the wrong food touches their lips, they die.

Any guesses, any time soon, why "special needs" eaters are a pain in the ass?

We don't want to deal with all your complexities. We just want to be British, family-orientated and serve up a group meal.

The whole social point of a meal - we all eat, we're all happiest eating and satiating needs and desires, and we're all socialising.

Except those that can't just join in the eating and socialising. The one's on their soap boxes against those who were just eating and socialising.

And those who have particular "special needs" for eating - just bring your own food and join in.

Ironic much? EAD

@ChellyT are you drunk or just naturally mean? what an unhelpful comment.

It’s pretty obvious she meant FEED. 🙄

I would respond to this but it's so garbled I'm not sure where to start.

Got another lunch today, let's hope the roast potatoes aren't in goose fat like normal

This can be a difficult one. Processed vegetable oils cause painful gas and bloating for me so I do use goose fat for potatoes. I think it's too hot for olive oil?

And the battle can continue.

I'm an Oxford grad, so always happy to debate.

Why is a Vegetarian who is so principled, not coming across as a pain-in-the-ass to mere mortals who have to plan, prepare and cook a meal for a big influx of family guests?

Did the vegetarian not realise in terms of evolution, their brains only grew by hunting other meat food groups? The intelligence needed for hunting is the sole reason you're not on the level of a rabbit or a cow. And they are intelligent - enough - for their level.

Darwin? Survival of the fittest? If humans as vegetarians ruled the world since year dot, humans would not be humans. Suck that up in your non-meat supremacy.

But we're talking about a rarefied group of humans, called vegetarians, mostly who have the luxury to choose and decide what will pass their rarified lips.

How far would you take it? World War III - and world in flames - still going to be a vegetarian?

The problem we all have with "special eaters" is that they don't eat for nutrients.

There are three groups of "special eaters" - and two of them are potential/somewhat/occasional ego-maniacs or narcissists or deluded or idealists.

They have no concept of human evolvement. They want to re-write human as non-animal, but idealistic. The middle ages were great on that.

Your "choose what you eat" - specifically vegetarians and vegans. Most of them can't explain why we're mostly omnivores. Or how we evolved? Or will evolve?

The religious folk. Apparently, if you get a food group wrong, they're insulted and violence is not excluded.

And the allergy group - you know the really scary ones. If the wrong food touches their lips, they die.

Any guesses, any time soon, why "special needs" eaters are a pain in the ass?

We don't want to deal with all your complexities. We just want to be British, family-orientated and serve up a group meal.

The whole social point of a meal - we all eat, we're all happiest eating and satiating needs and desires, and we're all socialising.

Except those that can't just join in the eating and socialising. The one's on their soap boxes against those who were just eating and socialising.

And those who have particular "special needs" for eating - just bring your own food and join in.

@FeetLikeFlippers you must be really quite pissed to be that amused by an obvious typo made about 40 hours ago. Precisely what does making fun of such a tiny error add to the conversation?

And the battle can continue.

I'm an Oxford grad, so always happy to debate.

Why is a Vegetarian who is so principled, not coming across as a pain-in-the-ass to mere mortals who have to plan, prepare and cook a meal for a big influx of family guests?

Did the vegetarian not realise in terms of evolution, their brains only grew by hunting other meat food groups? The intelligence needed for hunting is the sole reason you're not on the level of a rabbit or a cow. And they are intelligent - enough - for their level.

Darwin? Survival of the fittest? If humans as vegetarians ruled the world since year dot, humans would not be humans. Suck that up in your non-meat supremacy.

But we're talking about a rarefied group of humans, called vegetarians, mostly who have the luxury to choose and decide what will pass their rarified lips.

How far would you take it? World War III - and world in flames - still going to be a vegetarian?

The problem we all have with "special eaters" is that they don't eat for nutrients.

There are three groups of "special eaters" - and two of them are potential/somewhat/occasional ego-maniacs or narcissists or deluded or idealists.

They have no concept of human evolvement. They want to re-write human as non-animal, but idealistic. The middle ages were great on that.

Your "choose what you eat" - specifically vegetarians and vegans. Most of them can't explain why we're mostly omnivores. Or how we evolved? Or will evolve?

The religious folk. Apparently, if you get a food group wrong, they're insulted and violence is not excluded.

And the allergy group - you know the really scary ones. If the wrong food touches their lips, they die.

Any guesses, any time soon, why "special needs" eaters are a pain in the ass?

We don't want to deal with all your complexities. We just want to be British, family-orientated and serve up a group meal.

The whole social point of a meal - we all eat, we're all happiest eating and satiating needs and desires, and we're all socialising.

Except those that can't just join in the eating and socialising. The one's on their soap boxes against those who were just eating and socialising.

And those who have particular "special needs" for eating - just bring your own food and join in.

It’s worrying that you can’t see the difference between a vegetarian who morally objects to cooking meat not cooking it for omnivores and a non-vegetarian deliberately choosing to serve food with meat in it. Additionally, given that you, as an adult, didn’t know what gelatine was, I think you’ve been badly let down by the education system.

Either that or you’re just plain old belligerent.

Femme2804 · Today 22:44
Ignore people who said dont come to your in laws anymore. Its your in laws its better to have good relationships at least do it for your DH.

but i agree your in law its a bit rude. If i were in your position i will ask my DH to speak with his parents and said what they do to you its a bit rude by not serving vegetarian food. Sometimes older generations thinks that vegetarian or vegan its just facade. They dont really understand and think if you eat meat a little bit its alright. Maybe your in law like this.

@Femme2804 I (respectfully) completely disagree with your post .. why should she go just because they’re her in laws? Or do it ‘for your DH at the very least’? Why? They’re hardly respecting her are they? Nowadays you can get a pack of meat free pies for a few pounds and the in-laws can shove these in their freezer and cook them from frozen for them the visits .. some oxo onion gravy granules you can buy for a quid and shove in the cupboard .. or even a margarita or veggie supreme pizza .. can get for a couple of pounds to put in the freezer .. it’s really not very expensive or difficult to do! But they CHOOSE to ignore and they CHOOSE to disrespect her lifestyle choices

would you (and others on this thread) give this advice to a Muslim who goes around their in laws and their in laws serves them roast pork? Or bacon butties? I can bet my bottom dollar NO ONE would say ‘oh just have it as a one off ! It’s only six times a year you’ll be eating pork!’

Femme2804 · Today 23:25
@CocoBellaSparkle i think its different with muslim because its religions, its faith. Same thing if OP is alergic with something. Its different. Like i said before many of the old generations dint understand about being vegetarian or vegan. I think rather than stop coming and making situation awkward. I will speak to them and try to understand the situation or ask DH to speak to them. I love having big family and i like to think my in laws as my own family.

@Femme2804 - genuine question. Why should someone’s ‘belief’ of religion take greater importance over someone’s lifestyle choices and morals and beliefs in not eating animals that are killed for food?

Eee God! Never heard vegetarianism referred to as "special needs" before! All these years I could have been claiming disability allowances and I never knew it! 🙄😳