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In-laws still serve me food they know I don't like

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spotlightq · 01/04/2024 08:06

Husband and I have been married for 7 years, together 9. I have been a vegetarian the entire time.

Every time we come here to eat, I'll be offered/given something containing meat. I have to then feel rude and say no thank you.

For example yesterday the peas were ready prepared with mint and bloody pancetta. My plate was dished up for me, so I ended up having to leave a load of food on my plate. It looks rude from my side, but I think it's rude of them.

How hard is it!

OP posts:
BlueMongoose · 01/04/2024 15:00

If I know someone is veggie (and I always ask) I will provide accordingly. Likewise other diet stuff. It isn't in the least difficult, it's been widespread for decades now. Vegan is a bit harder, but as it happens I haven't had to host any vegans. I'd ask their advice if I did. Same for any special medical diet-in fact, I'm asking someone right now about theirs because they're coming for a few days.
Once I had veggies for chistmas dinner, I was more than happy to cook anything they asked for but they said they really wanted som special xmas M&S nut roasts, so I got some. We had an M&S in town, so I'm sure they thought it would make it easy for me, but my local one didn't stock them- I never mentioned I had to drive about 60 miles round trip to get them.😊But I didn't mind at all, it was a pleasure- I was just happy to get something I knew they'd really like.
But-
Demanding, faddy eaters who make life complicated are quite a different matter. If someone like that was coming, they'd be free to eat what I provided or bring their own. Fortunately I don't know any. Or maybe that type of person is also someone who has other traits that mean I wouldn't fancy asking them to my house anyway- at its worst, expecting others to provide for your own faddy eating is a passive aggressive form of control, and I won't thole that.

Easipeelerie · 01/04/2024 14:59

On the basis of what you’ve written I would suggest it’s not just ignorance but a combination of selfishness and ignorance. They absolute know what they’re doing. They find the idea of putting themselves out to suit you really irritating so they blur the boundaries by sort of catering for you but not doing it properly.
Most people’s suggestions here won’t work for you, because they lead to potential outcomes which you’re not willing to face e.g. their sensitivity/moods. The best suggestion is Octavia64’s. Take flowers and wine. Be charm personified. Eat well in advance and just eat what you can. This way allows you to go on without a big showdown but it doesn’t resolve the issue.
Really, ultimately, you’re best off making your husband understand that he needs to put a stop to them feeding you meat, but I understand that this feels difficult for you right now.

FlissyPaps · 01/04/2024 14:55

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 01/04/2024 14:16

I think you are being a bit batshit. They are serving mostly preprepared supermarket foods, they're not slaving over this for hours so if they take offence that you have done exactly the same thing and brought a vegetarian dish you can eat from M&S they can hardly object and take it personally without looking quite silly.

Either woman up or keep leaving the food on your plate. They clearly have no intention of doing anything about it but I bet if you start turning up with food then magically there'll be something for you from M&S next time around.

You are everything that is wrong with Mumsnet.

A vegetarian is “batshit” and should “woman up” because her in-laws who have known her for years refuse to cater for her when hosting. It isn’t difficult to cater for a veggie. Her in laws are being obscenely rude and thoughtless.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 01/04/2024 14:54

I've been vegetarian for over 40 years . DH for 35 years

I haven't eaten at PIL for many years but they did give us pizza with pepperoni ( y'know , sausage) and chicken soup (that we could pick the chicken out of)
No malice , just not "getting it"

My Dad used to buy in food for me (looked for the Vegan/Vegetarian signs) but if we went went shopping he'd say "Go and pick yourself some cold meat"

I'd gently pisstake "What sort of cold meat do vegetarians eat then, Oh Daddy of Mine" ?
"Chicken...or ham" he'd suggest
Then, the penny dropped .
Again no malice , they just didn't get vegetarianism .

GoldenDoor · 01/04/2024 14:49

Call them out on it. Say sorry, you’ve forgotten I’m a vegetarian. Otherwise you’re teaching your children to let people ride over their needs. Also to be controlled by their moods as you put it.

fiorentina · 01/04/2024 14:47

I’m vegetarian and this would infuriate me and I wouldn’t be so passive. I know you don’t want to upset them but they dont care about you.
I would not eat the rest of the food if meat was on my plate either and every time take my own food, if they refuse to listen.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/04/2024 14:46

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 14:42

They are shit hosts. There is no need to put meat in peas. MN is full of nonsense defending this behaviour.

I am not vegetarian but would not dream of serving pancetta to a vegetarian, not least of all a loved family member who I had known for years was vegetarian.

It is not as if it’s more of an effort not to add the meat 🙄

Pancetta does nothing, in my opinion for what it's worth, to improve the taste of peas. Far from it. It overwhelms the fresh, green taste of the peas.

Startingagainandagain · 01/04/2024 14:45

I am vegetarian so understand the importance of other people respecting your diet.

A few things come to mind:

  • where is your partner in all this? because he should have had a word with his parents a long time ago basically in the line of 'we will no longer have lunch/dinner with you if you don't start showing my wife the respect she deserves and accept her dietary needs.'
  • they know full well what they are doing and I would refuse to join them for meals until they grow up...
GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 14:44

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 14:42

They are shit hosts. There is no need to put meat in peas. MN is full of nonsense defending this behaviour.

I am not vegetarian but would not dream of serving pancetta to a vegetarian, not least of all a loved family member who I had known for years was vegetarian.

It is not as if it’s more of an effort not to add the meat 🙄

I think OP said it was one of those ready meal type things from M and S so not home made.
Not as if that's any excuse, it'd just be as easy to get some normal bloody peas as well if they were truly doing it "for ease."

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 14:42

They are shit hosts. There is no need to put meat in peas. MN is full of nonsense defending this behaviour.

I am not vegetarian but would not dream of serving pancetta to a vegetarian, not least of all a loved family member who I had known for years was vegetarian.

It is not as if it’s more of an effort not to add the meat 🙄

Pipsquiggle · 01/04/2024 14:36

@spotlightq just to add, it sounds like you are being way too passive about this.
Sounds like they are making mistakes and you are just sat there passively not correcting them in the moment.

I decided after a couple of years I needed to show my ILs how to make my cup of tea as it was so weak with literally a drop of milk when they made it. I couldn't tolerate shite tea, you are tolerating shite meals - you need to tell them.

nokidshere · 01/04/2024 14:36

I will mention to my husband again today.

Doesn't sound like there's much point mentioning it to him, just speak to whoever is cooking

ArthurChristmas22 · 01/04/2024 14:35

I suspect they are just very ignorant. My parents couldn't cope with my DD allergies as a child. She had a large number and even though I explained it in detail and detailed what she could have, they never once in 8 years managed to serve a meal she could have. It caused a huge amount of upset. I would need to redo dinners (sensitive even with cross contamination) and in the end I took every meal she ate. They weren't happy and argued with me constantly that they could do it, but they always got something wrong. I'd take a set of M&S vegetarian meals and make it obvious they could have just picked you something up too.

StaunchMomma · 01/04/2024 14:34

ClairDeLaLune · 01/04/2024 14:32

But then the meat would have been wasted, and the animal would have died for nothing.

They should respect her wishes and not serve her meat in the first place.

When we have vegetarian friends round for dinner we all eat vegetarian. I relish the opportunity to eat something different from usual.

PILs ABU.

Absolutely agree.

There is literally no way they don't know she can't/won't eat it so they're doing it on purpose.

And yes, being wasteful as they know it won't be consumed!

ClairDeLaLune · 01/04/2024 14:34

totallybonkerswarning · 01/04/2024 14:28

I'm sorry but your weak personality really is irritating. I hate it when people "don't want to cause an argue" etc because life does contain confrontations and you need to face them like an adult, not a timid child "trying to please everyone"

OP is probably just a nice person. Which is why she doesn’t want animals to die for her meals.

Meadowfinch · 01/04/2024 14:34

Stop going. Or take your own food.

I don't understand why you put up with their intransigence. Just change the system.

TeabySea · 01/04/2024 14:33

Hotdogity · 01/04/2024 10:16

You say how hard is it? Well actually it is quite tricky cooking specific dishes for one individual (and additional expense). So whilst I do think they should accommodate you, I do think you are appreciative of the effort people go to when the do cook separate dishes to accommodate dietary requests.

My ex was vegetarian, and there was no way the family were going to give up a Sunday roast forever- which meant cooking separate potatoes, Yorkshire puddings and a main dish. It was a significant amount of effort. I hope you do recognise that for the people who do try to accommodate you.

But you don't have to do most of that separately. Just don't use goose fat/beef fat and then everyone can eat the vegetables and sides.
I'm sure, from what OP says, she'd happily bring her own main meal (whether that's a nut roast, quorn slices or something else).

If you're hosting a meal, then you take into consideration what your guests will eat.

ClairDeLaLune · 01/04/2024 14:32

StaunchMomma · 01/04/2024 14:10

Anyone who purposefully serves a vegetarian meat is a twat.

You wouldn't have been unreasonable to have thrown the whole plateful in the bin, OP.

They sound ridiculous.

But then the meat would have been wasted, and the animal would have died for nothing.

They should respect her wishes and not serve her meat in the first place.

When we have vegetarian friends round for dinner we all eat vegetarian. I relish the opportunity to eat something different from usual.

PILs ABU.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/04/2024 14:31

Kittynoodle · 01/04/2024 14:26

Is this for real?????@

It's an astonishing comment isn't it.

Pipsquiggle · 01/04/2024 14:30

So you either say every single time
'I can't eat that, I am vegetarian.'

Or
Say nothing but be prepared that you might not be eating so you need a big breakfast.

Personally I would tell them.

totallybonkerswarning · 01/04/2024 14:28

spotlightq · 01/04/2024 09:17

Because my children love them and want to see them. But I agree I should stand up for myself.

Anyway, I've made myself chief potato maker today. Doing them fresh in the air fryer with no goose fat!

I'm sorry but your weak personality really is irritating. I hate it when people "don't want to cause an argue" etc because life does contain confrontations and you need to face them like an adult, not a timid child "trying to please everyone"

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 01/04/2024 14:27

Kittynoodle · 01/04/2024 14:22

Completely agree

stupidest comment on mn of the year so far
🙄🙄🙄

TBF this one runs it a close second.

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but if a vegetarian invites their PIL round for a meal and the PIL say "We don't like vegetarian food - we only eat proper food with meat", should the vegetarian accommodate their wishes?

"Proper food" good grief.

Kittynoodle · 01/04/2024 14:26

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 11:45

A lot of veg can be made much more delicious with meat (be it small cubes of meat for flavouring, animal fat or shredded meat). It sounds like your in laws are just trying to give you more interesting food (in their view). Depending on the reasons for you vegetarianism, could you just eat what they serve up as its only once ever 8 weeks? If not I think it's best to bring a back up veg sandwich and not to cause too much friction.

Edited

Is this for real?????@

Kittynoodle · 01/04/2024 14:22

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 01/04/2024 08:32

@CloudsUnderwater

Being vegetarian is being fussy

This one is bound to be in the top 5 ignorant comments of the thread. ✅😳

Completely agree

stupidest comment on mn of the year so far
🙄🙄🙄

totallybonkerswarning · 01/04/2024 14:20

Kalevala · 01/04/2024 08:28

Prepared vegetarian ones would likely be in an oil that would affect me. I guess if cooking for a vegetarian I would use coconut oil but there would not be a prepared option we could both eat. Appreciate this may not be their situation but conflicting dietary needs can be an issue.

Interestingly I can't have animal fats. Oil is fine but chicken skin or butter kills me

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