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Does this sound financially fair?

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runningaway90 · 21/02/2024 09:36

Longwinded but hoping someone will read.. Just looking for advice as feeling a lot of financial stress at the moment and not sure how to handle the situation. Myself and DP bought an older house a few years ago and it ended up needing significantly more work than expected. DP has a large deposit partly from family gift and sale of previous home (his home and I paid 50% of mortgage for half the time he lived there). I had much lower deposit (about 20% of his) so was wiped out buying this house as contributed all of my savings/equity. I mentioned adjusting ownership % at the time to allow me to keep £5/10k back but he was not happy with this as he was already putting down much larger deposit.

When we moved in, we spent about £45k on various repairs within 6 months (boiler, kitchen, doors). I’ve been trying to save as much as possible to pay off everything we have done so far but still have around £5k to pay off my share on CC etc. He is constantly making digs that I need to save more anytime I rarely go out with a friend etc but I’m trying to save between £500-700 a month.

On top of this, I pay 2/3 mortgage payments to balance out his deposit which is further restricting my ability to save. There are still repairs urgently needing done ie. roof needs replaced. He is getting a lump sum inheritance and will upfront the roof but expects me to pay him back as soon as I can (before the above mentioned debt).

I feel like I am drowning in a never ending cycle of repairs on this house. I really want things to be fair but I feel like I can’t keep up and every month there is another thing he comes to me with that must get done. On top of it, he was the big driver to move here, I was much happier in previous new build we had bought but agreed to move as he was so unhappy there. I’d honestly rather downsize to take the pressure off and have my life back but there is no way he would move again and certainly not somewhere with lots of neighbours.

Am I being unreasonable to feel his expectations here are unfair? What can I do in this situation? I know I am an adult and got myself into this situation but struggling to figure out what to do and the pressure is making me so stressed.

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CoffeeBeansGalore · 28/07/2024 13:40

I would want every penny back. Total up your deposit & every mortgage payment. Not sure where you stand but see what the solicitor says. I really don't believe you owe him £10k. Manipulative tight bastard.

BuggeryBumFlaps · 28/07/2024 13:37

runningaway90 · 28/07/2024 11:03

@ZebraD you're right and he is trying to scare me but I need to remember it's just his opinion. He basically said I own half the house but I owe 2/3 of the mortgage so with that logic I'd basically owe him 10k to get out of the house which clearly isn't right. He was basically telling me i don't realise how good I've got it and he's such a good boyfriend letting me have half the house 😂My mum (who never swears) said he is a fucking arsehole and to just leave and they will help me financially if I need to borrow money etc in the short term. Haven't seen him this morning but I'm about to go home and the only words I have in my head currently are that I'm fucking done

You're right it is his opinion, he's not got a law degree in family law and he doesn't make the decision on who gets what. If it comes to it a judge will do this and it's based on the law and needs. Not what your dh 'thinks'.

When you say you're going home I hope you mean back to your parents house and it's the first step to leaving him.

Bluetrews25 · 28/07/2024 13:34

You are so close to being happy again and free.
Keep on keeping on, @runningaway90
Let your lovely Mum and family help you, they've probably been wanting to help for a long time.
Very very best wishes and positive thoughts at this tough hurdle. But do you know what? You can kick the bloody hurdle over and still get past it. And you will get past it. xx

Left · 28/07/2024 13:07

He’s a nightmare, your mum is right! Hope you’re on your way home to family x

Abitofalark · 28/07/2024 12:38

Good mum! You always needed that and there she is, as good as gold. You are not alone and lonely any more.

He is trying to bully and get his way. As you say, it's not factual but there is a psychological power to even stating the claim to a notional amount of your money. It's to intimidate, control and gain advantage. Even though it's not legitimate, it's planted in your head and left there for you to deal with.

Recognising that power, take steps to neutralise it by hitting back and treating him to some of your own: tell him he owes you x amount for mortgage overpayments and y amount for whatever else you've paid for and z amount for work you've done. Let him stew on that little list.

Ginkypig · 28/07/2024 12:02

You’re doing cracking! @runningaway90 im sending you everything iv got to get you through this!!

im so glad you told your mum. Now you know you have a safety net. You don’t need to worry anymore you aren’t alone.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 28/07/2024 11:51

Glad you told your mum @runningaway90. Real life support will keep you going. Hope the dog is okay. You can do this 💪

ZebraD · 28/07/2024 11:38

Good lass!! Well done!! We can all say what we want - doesn’t mean it’s right or will happen. Ie he can say you owe in whatever he wants - doesn’t mean he is going to get it! He is not living in the real world - and now you can see that. Your mum sounds brilliant!! Take the help your family will offer. I have 3 children and do you know what I want for them?? Happiness - so go and get it. It’s heartbreaking to think of our children unhappy, the joy in seeing your kids happy is second to none. I am so very glad you have confided in her - be proud x

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 28/07/2024 11:09

The house needs to go on the market now !
you have already seen a solicitor - he doesn't know that !

find a rental that will accept the dog and go
you have just said that Mum will help you financially if needed

you were almost ready to leave a couple of weeks ago

he hasn't been a boyfriend for a long time, you share a house with him - which you pay 2/3 of the mortgage ! to him you are an open purse
and he just keeps taking and wanting more

runningaway90 · 28/07/2024 11:03

@ZebraD you're right and he is trying to scare me but I need to remember it's just his opinion. He basically said I own half the house but I owe 2/3 of the mortgage so with that logic I'd basically owe him 10k to get out of the house which clearly isn't right. He was basically telling me i don't realise how good I've got it and he's such a good boyfriend letting me have half the house 😂My mum (who never swears) said he is a fucking arsehole and to just leave and they will help me financially if I need to borrow money etc in the short term. Haven't seen him this morning but I'm about to go home and the only words I have in my head currently are that I'm fucking done

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ZebraD · 28/07/2024 10:39

Ps what did your mum say x

ZebraD · 28/07/2024 10:39

He can only screw you over if you stay with him. From a legal perspective there is only so much he can do. Just leave. He is a twat. You cannot cannot stay for money - your money is not your money the whole time you are with him. Get a solicitor appointment booked this week and start getting things formalised.

Moosegooseontheloose · 28/07/2024 01:03

Just remember he is already screwing you over and things can’t get much worse. He’s screwing you over mentally too.
It may cost you in legal fees to leave and split the house but once you’ve left you’ll have less stress.@Pumpkinpie1 made a good suggestion that you pay only half the mortgage from now and use the difference for your getting away fund.
I think you’ll be better off financially once you’ve left.

Scaremongering will be one of the many tactics he’ll try.
Don’t fall for it.

Abitofalark · 28/07/2024 01:01

So sorry to read what he is putting you through. It's awful for you at the moment but I am so glad you told your mum so that you do have the support and understanding of close family and friends to lean on. This is getting to the heart of it now where you confront and challenge what is thrown at you.

Fear is real and not to be dismissed and will throw you into a panic initially but the financial issue can be managed and ameliorated once you gather yourself and start thinking and planning how to protect your position, how to claim what you have put in and are entitled to and how you can build up your finances once you leave.

With the a solicitor to guide you and fight your corner and the support of family, you will be able to either stay in the house until a settlement is reached or stay with family or friend or take a room as a lodger in someone's house as a temporary arrangement to weather this storm.

runningaway90 · 28/07/2024 00:35

I honestly can't even describe what he said to me tonight and I had the subsequent panic that I can't leave for finances. I phoned my mum and told her everything.

And you know what I fucking realised? He will screw me over now or he will screw me over in 10 years but at least I won't be living in this hell. So scared of leaving in terms of money but it will never change with him. So so so so done 🙏

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Abitofalark · 27/07/2024 16:00

I'll be having tea, thanks, no milk or sugar!

Abitofalark · 27/07/2024 15:56

runningaway90 · 27/07/2024 12:03

This morning is my final straw. He was in a foul mood as the dog had been misbehaving and we then got some coffees to go for a walk. He got really bad road rage on the way. We are then on the walk and he raises the fact he has been in a bad mood and said it's because I didn't offer to buy the coffees while he was driving us (20 mins away 🙄). So effectively it is my fault that he's lashing out and being angry. I got defensive as I was already annoyed and he told me I am using DARVO to deflect my behaviour. So I feel utterly fed up of spending my weekends like this and I'm sitting here trying to gear myself up to just end it. No discussion and opportunity to blame me. I can't leave straight away as I am worried about the dog especially after this morning but will be moving to the spare room and keeping my distance.

This is a miserable way to go on - I don't know how you can stand it. And it's more than miserable. It's the horrible obsession with money both trivial and substantial, the bubbling resentment and blaming you for his bad temper and bad behaviour.

The thing is you can choose to leave if you want to. If / when you do decide, remind yourself and say to yourself, either silently or out loud 'I choose to do this and I am happy with it'. Doing that frees you in your mind, recognising that it is your free choice and underlining your acceptance of that choice, freely made. Everything else is detail.

If you choose to stay, can you tell yourself 'I choose to stay and I am happy with it'?

If you keep going like a pendulum from one side to the other: I am going... no I'm staying; or re examining: should I stay or should I go? or indecisive: maybe I'll stay or maybe I'll go - depending on what way the wind is blowing from his direction or what whim or mood he exercises from moment to moment, that would be quite wearing and draining on anyone.

Pumpkinpie1 · 27/07/2024 15:10

Have you had the house valued yet OP? It doesn’t matter if he’s in or not, he knows this relationship isn’t working. Why would he finish it when you are still playing 2/3 of mortgage .

Stick to your guns about the roof. Personally I would only pay 50% of the mortgage until the house was sold and you split. Use that 1/3 to save for a deposit etc.

You are being very brave OP change is hard.

runningaway90 · 27/07/2024 15:08

Thanks all, I know he is just reverting to type but he is really good at manipulating me and making me believe I'm actually at fault! Enough is really enough. I should be enjoying my weekend when my week is stressful enough, not putting up with this stress for something so stupid. @ZebraD haha yes I owe you all a coffee, or a wine 😂i will update later x

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ZebraD · 27/07/2024 14:59

We all knew this would happen…and now it has. As the other poster said, def move in the spare room but let him know the relationship is over. You can sort the rest out either with an agreement if he is being reasonable or otherwise legally but please both bear in mind it gets expensive! Keep strong, you’ve got this and when you’re done…will you get the coffees in for us all??? Ha ha…just kidding xx

Ginkypig · 27/07/2024 14:33

yes @KTheGrey is right tell someone else.

andto concrete this point. Ending the relationship is not a discussion @runningaway90 it is a statement and once you have made it there is no need to talk about it.

he does not get to choose the narrative. You tell him it’s done and everything that comes after is just wind, let it blow over you and don’t engage on it.

KTheGrey · 27/07/2024 14:31

PS amazing that he knows the term DARVO and even more that he has the face to use it on you. Staggering projection there.

KTheGrey · 27/07/2024 14:30

Tell your family and his sister that you are ending the relationship.

I suspect he will work out that you are doing so when you move into a separate room.

Chin up, OP, you are so nearly there.

Ginkypig · 27/07/2024 14:22

runningaway90 · 27/07/2024 12:03

This morning is my final straw. He was in a foul mood as the dog had been misbehaving and we then got some coffees to go for a walk. He got really bad road rage on the way. We are then on the walk and he raises the fact he has been in a bad mood and said it's because I didn't offer to buy the coffees while he was driving us (20 mins away 🙄). So effectively it is my fault that he's lashing out and being angry. I got defensive as I was already annoyed and he told me I am using DARVO to deflect my behaviour. So I feel utterly fed up of spending my weekends like this and I'm sitting here trying to gear myself up to just end it. No discussion and opportunity to blame me. I can't leave straight away as I am worried about the dog especially after this morning but will be moving to the spare room and keeping my distance.

As much as im sorry this has has happened I am actually really glad because it shows you nothing is ever going to change!

when he thought there was a chance you’d leave he immediately pulled back and started treating you like a human but the moment he thought he’d pulled you back in he immediately reverted to type.

only this time you were privately keeping a check of yourself and noticed this wasn’t about you but it entirely was him!

I agree it is time to stop this. Just be ready because he is either going to do one or both

the upset I love you and I can’t lose you routine. Things will change blah blah blah

or

realise he has lost the control of you and will stop trying to mask and all will become nastier and nastier until you finally are out and on the other side.

in both circumstances i truly believe you will be able to navigate and cope with his behaviour until you get yourself into the position where you can finally put him and this behind you and get on without your new life.
keep your head down and focus on the endgames do not let him throw you off.

Dogman · 27/07/2024 14:01

I came across this thread for the first time today and need to comment. I’ve read all your posts - you do not see how far you have come. The progress you have made is quite astonishing and you should be proud of yourself. Stop beating yourself up for not having left yet. Your life is not a TV programme that gets tidied up nicely in a few hours. You do only get one life and you are sharing yours with a joy sucking dementor who has conditioned you to question and second guess yourself. You are worth so much more.