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Does this sound financially fair?

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runningaway90 · 21/02/2024 09:36

Longwinded but hoping someone will read.. Just looking for advice as feeling a lot of financial stress at the moment and not sure how to handle the situation. Myself and DP bought an older house a few years ago and it ended up needing significantly more work than expected. DP has a large deposit partly from family gift and sale of previous home (his home and I paid 50% of mortgage for half the time he lived there). I had much lower deposit (about 20% of his) so was wiped out buying this house as contributed all of my savings/equity. I mentioned adjusting ownership % at the time to allow me to keep £5/10k back but he was not happy with this as he was already putting down much larger deposit.

When we moved in, we spent about £45k on various repairs within 6 months (boiler, kitchen, doors). I’ve been trying to save as much as possible to pay off everything we have done so far but still have around £5k to pay off my share on CC etc. He is constantly making digs that I need to save more anytime I rarely go out with a friend etc but I’m trying to save between £500-700 a month.

On top of this, I pay 2/3 mortgage payments to balance out his deposit which is further restricting my ability to save. There are still repairs urgently needing done ie. roof needs replaced. He is getting a lump sum inheritance and will upfront the roof but expects me to pay him back as soon as I can (before the above mentioned debt).

I feel like I am drowning in a never ending cycle of repairs on this house. I really want things to be fair but I feel like I can’t keep up and every month there is another thing he comes to me with that must get done. On top of it, he was the big driver to move here, I was much happier in previous new build we had bought but agreed to move as he was so unhappy there. I’d honestly rather downsize to take the pressure off and have my life back but there is no way he would move again and certainly not somewhere with lots of neighbours.

Am I being unreasonable to feel his expectations here are unfair? What can I do in this situation? I know I am an adult and got myself into this situation but struggling to figure out what to do and the pressure is making me so stressed.

OP posts:
Abitofalark · 10/09/2024 13:02

Always good to hear from you but don't want to make you feel worse for not having left or put pressure on you in addition to what you are already dealing with. You don't owe it to anyone. Glad to know that you are managing anxiety better day to day.

When you say he is doing a tenants in common document ref his deposit, what does it say about your financial contribution? This could be an opportunity for you to negotiate to right the imbalance that you have paid over the odds for the mortgage and other things over the years.

CovertPiggery · 10/09/2024 12:57

I also agree re not signing anything.

Make sure to take legal advice to ensure it is completely fair and recognises your higher contribution to the mortgage as well as your 50:50 mortgage payments before buying and any contact to selling/buying costs.

In fact, I would put a spreadsheet together (without his input as he has always been biased towards having things in his favour) and see exactly how much you have contributed. Then consult a lawyer to see where you stand.

CovertPiggery · 10/09/2024 12:55

Please don't feel embarrassed OP

As someone who's been there, I know how hard it can be to leave.

I wouldn't have expected any relief on holiday, because you were still undecided about leaving or not and an awful lot of the anxiety and stress comes from that. You're not actually 'free' at that point if that makes sense.

For me, the relief came a month or so after leaving when something happened that he would have reacted badly to and I felt myself bracing for the verbal abuse and it never came. Knowing I'd never have to face that again was the biggest relief.

I had moments after leaving when I wasn't sure, but that really cemented it for me that I'd made the right decision.

ZebraD · 10/09/2024 12:40

So he is putting his ducks in a row then.
You need to do the same…dont sign anything!
His deposit was blown out of the window when his higher expectations of your were put in place. You have caught up on the deposit and he knows it.
Dont be upset about ‘progress’ its your life not ours.
As long as you are ok. I don’t suppose there would be relief in holiday as you have no resolution…but you’ll tire of feeling this way before long and you’ll just end it.
How have things been day to day together…are you getting along? Strained…

Catza · 10/09/2024 12:38

runningaway90 · 10/09/2024 12:09

@OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon no he has agreed to pay it and it was due to be done this month but now been delayed. He has agreed to pay it but wants to write up in a tenants in common document to cover that and his deposit if we split.

And, I hope, you are therefore only paying 50% of the mortgage from now on...

runningaway90 · 10/09/2024 12:09

@OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon no he has agreed to pay it and it was due to be done this month but now been delayed. He has agreed to pay it but wants to write up in a tenants in common document to cover that and his deposit if we split.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 10/09/2024 12:02

oh.

I thought he had gone ahead with the roof and paid for it, and that you now owed him the money.

runningaway90 · 10/09/2024 11:47

Sorry I haven't been back to update for a few weeks. I'm sure my silence is probably speaking volumes that I've not managed to go through with it yet and still in the cycle of him improving, making promises etc. I feel mentally stuck but I have managed to get on top of the anxiety a bit and feeling calmer day to day. I enjoyed my holiday but didn't feel any relief being away from him and I don't understand that. I haven't found it very helpful to update as I just feel embarrassed/ashamed for letting another opportunity to leave go by. The roof has been delayed until next year which gave me more time to ruminate, probably not a good thing but has helped reduce the panic of having to make a decision right now. Sorry not a great update but appreciate people checking in.

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CovertPiggery · 10/09/2024 09:12

AlertCat · 04/09/2024 08:02

Have only read OP posts as it’s a long thread, but I was in a similarly emotionally abusive relationship and it took me a couple of years to actually leave, once I had seen what was happening. Also similarly accepting really shite treatment from previous boyfriends because I “wasn’t like those other girls” with their rules and possessiveness and expectations 🙄 I’m in my 40s now but it took a long time on my own and lots of work to get to a place where a happy, equal relationship was possible. I’m super grateful for the present Mr AlertCat- it IS possible, you DO deserve it and you CAN have it, once you are free.

i really hope all is going smoothly for you OP and that you are able to escape the situation you’re in. I’m glad you have a counsellor because emotional manipulation, control, and abuse are incredibly damaging and the effects are deep and lasting. Sending you best wishes .

Similar situation for me too.

I hope you're doing OK OP.

There really is light at the end of the tunnel and the relief you feel once you're away really is worth it.

ZebraD · 10/09/2024 08:49

@runningaway90 hope you’re doing ok. Keep strong. 💪 ☺️

AlertCat · 04/09/2024 08:02

Have only read OP posts as it’s a long thread, but I was in a similarly emotionally abusive relationship and it took me a couple of years to actually leave, once I had seen what was happening. Also similarly accepting really shite treatment from previous boyfriends because I “wasn’t like those other girls” with their rules and possessiveness and expectations 🙄 I’m in my 40s now but it took a long time on my own and lots of work to get to a place where a happy, equal relationship was possible. I’m super grateful for the present Mr AlertCat- it IS possible, you DO deserve it and you CAN have it, once you are free.

i really hope all is going smoothly for you OP and that you are able to escape the situation you’re in. I’m glad you have a counsellor because emotional manipulation, control, and abuse are incredibly damaging and the effects are deep and lasting. Sending you best wishes .

CheeseFiend40 · 04/09/2024 07:05

My mind keeps coming back to this thread and wondering how you are@runningaway90
Hope everything is ok

Apparentlystillchilled · 28/08/2024 08:35

Just checking in, as you were on my mind
,@runningaway90

ZebraD · 21/08/2024 09:51

KTheGrey · 20/08/2024 21:23

Have you got a solicitor? A written proposal for how to divide the financials? Take the personal element out of it as much as possible. I am sure he must understand it is over and you should really put him out of his misery.

He has the opportunity to end it aswell!

KTheGrey · 20/08/2024 21:23

Have you got a solicitor? A written proposal for how to divide the financials? Take the personal element out of it as much as possible. I am sure he must understand it is over and you should really put him out of his misery.

Genevieva · 20/08/2024 18:16

Either you are a committed couple or you aren’t. If you aren’t then you shouldn’t be buying a house together. If you are then you need to work together as a unit for your joint future. This means it doesn’t really matter where the money comes from. You shouldn’t be contributing 2/3 mortgage from your smaller salary or struggling to pay 50% of urgent repair costs.

Women are usually the lower earners and usually take the biggest financial and career progression hit when a couple have children. Marriage was created to protect women from financial abuse and being left with a child and no support system. You clearly aren’t married and don’t appear to have kids yet and I don’t know if you plan to, but hopefully you get the point. It’s essentially the same in any relationship. You pull together or there will be intolerable tension and inequality.

Personally, I’d never buy a house, have kids it move in with anyone who thought he should only pay 50% of the living costs. My husband has always earned multiples of what I have earned, but I have never once been made to feel that my contribution to our family was lesser because I earn less. In your shoes, a serious conversation about the future would be urgent.

Abitofalark · 20/08/2024 16:00

Been thinking of you and hoping things are going well. Good to have a holiday arranged - something to look forward to and unwind, away from the everyday situation. Enjoy it no matter whether you've taken any big decision or not.

ZebraD · 20/08/2024 15:43

I would say tell him before/as you leave for the holiday. For your own sake. Then you have time on holiday to relax rather than building up to telling him after.
but we are all different. No right and no wrong just different perspectives. see how you feel.
can you stay with your mum? Can she help look after the dog while you rent until you get cash from house to buy your next own home. Once you really get looking for somewhere to rent it’s amazing how quickly you find somewjeee. Register with some agents, I am sure they will help. I haven’t rented before but recently set up my ex MIL with a new place to rent and ringing up and speaking to the agents was the best thing I could have done.
dont worry about going quiet…was just a bit worried that you were ok really …wasn’t sure when the holiday was and therefore if everything had gone well etc etc.
anyway…hope you enjoy your jollies!! And best wishes for your delivery of news!

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/08/2024 15:34

you don't need to find that courage, you know you already have it
you just need to use it...

when is the holiday due ?

runningaway90 · 20/08/2024 15:31

Thanks both for the boost. You are both right and I can't get rid of this awful underlying anxiety that I feel everyday longer that I waste here so it's got to end. I actually feel so ready to just shout I'm done on repeat so maybe that will be the best approach! There's literally nothing left to discuss with him it's just finding the courage to take my life back into my own hands!

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/08/2024 14:55

Just remember the roof issue is never ever going to go away ( in more ways then one ! )
that roof will be on the house for years !

time to find your own roof, the sigh of relief you will have when you do will be enormous !

this issue of the blooming roof has been hanging over your head for 6 blooming months

that's half a year of your life !

Lazypeopledrivemecrazy · 20/08/2024 14:24

Don't lose heart OP, you CAN do this! When the time comes, if you want to tell him face to face, just take a deep breath, and tell him 'I'M DONE!' No arguments, I've thought everything through to the nth degree, and know that the relationship is OVER, I'm not prepared to discuss it any further, and will be leaving on (whatever date you've decided)!! If you can, then go straight out the door. Go visit a friend, leave in your car and go for a walk, anything, just so that you don't have to talk to him and go over the same old ground. Just put 'I'm done', on repeat, if he tries to talk about it. You get the picture? I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done! Literally just keep saying it so that he can't interrupt you, as it's at that point that all your heart searching, and agonising, is likely to fall apart if you let him talk yet again.

Personally, I think your best bet is to have your holiday, then tell him the minute you get back, so that you don't even bother unpacking. Can you get someone to look after the dog while you're away, so that he doesn't become an issue in the moment?

I wish you all the best OP, I know how hard it is, but if you can finally make that break, you'll be asking yourself in a few months time, why it all took you so long.

Have a great holiday!

runningaway90 · 20/08/2024 12:10

@ZebraD hope you are well. Sorry I don't have much to update on, I've been looking for rentals that would take the dog and going on holiday in a few days. Still really struggling with the thought of going through with it and flip flop in my mind 100 times a day but can't feel like this any longer. Been seeing my counsellor weekly and she is doing her best to help me see through his crap and get to the right decision

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ZebraD · 20/08/2024 06:30

How are things going? You haven quiet so I hope you are ok. Best wishes.

ZebraD · 08/08/2024 12:31

I wouldnt be so quick to move out of my own asset unless completely necessary. When you tell him, I would encourage him to come up with a reasonable settlement upon separation and sale of the property or for him to buy you out. Leave him with your thoughts of a fair sum but you 100% should not be leaving with nothing. He has the week to think about it while you are away. He will know you mean business and that it is over. It will spell finality. If he doesn’t to play ball, then you’ll know and can speak with a solicitor and do something more formal potentially.
your anxiety may still be there on holiday but the only way to rid yourself of it completely is to get the heck out of this awful situation you are in. Try not to get too overwhelmed, reach out for support as and when you need it, get a couple of nice things planned with friends for when you get back so you have an outlet to let go a bit and yes…breath…deeply and slowly regain that confidence!! Hugs x

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