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5 year old wetting herself on purpose, what do I do?

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Majesty · 27/06/2023 22:13

Just after advice because I’m at my wits end. 5 year old has been potty trained since she was 2. Dry, day and night for years. Except she goes through phases where she wets herself because she can’t be bothered to go to the toilet. If asked, she will literally say she didn’t want to stop what she was doing and go to the toilet so just wets herself instead. I’ve tried ignoring it, punishing her, leaving her in her damp clothes (for a few minutes so she gets the wet feeling), taking her to the toilet hourly. I’ve threatened her with nappies at school, I’ve bought her special pants that will be thrown away if she wets them. We’ve done sticker charts to stay dry, treats out etc. Ive switched her clothes to make it easier to pull them up/down. Nothing works. She doesn’t care about having wet pants, she just wants to keep playing. When she wets her pants we stop what we are doing and go in so it doesn’t even work!
I've had her checked for urine infections and nothing. I googled and sexual abuse came up, it’s definitely not that. I just don’t know what to do! It’s not all the time, maybe for 5/6 days and then it stops for a month or two, and then she starts again. She’s an intelligent child with good communication skills. Is more than capable of going to the toilet by herself. What can I do?

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MucozadeOnLucozade · 28/06/2023 20:36

Teach her about the anatomy of the body so she understands why to wee.... Get some water balloons and slowly fill them up until they pop. Explain this is her bladder.

FuckOffTom · 28/06/2023 20:34

Hi OP - I take it you’re talking about full bladder emptying, not just a little bit because she has left it too late, for example? Is she just turned 5 or closer to 6?

My DS went through a phase of doing this - he is 5 and a half now but it wasn’t that long ago. Sometimes it was just a dribble and then he would run off, a couple of times he has full on wet himself at school and come home in ‘spare’ trousers. I’ve asked him why he is wearing someone else’s trousers and he merrily said “I wet myself because I was laughing too much”
It’s definitely for similar reasons - he can’t tear himself away from something. I just said back each time in a neutral voice “ok sweetie well let’s try and make it to the toilet sooner next time, ok?” and eventually he did. It’s been a good few months since it happened last but I’m not ruling out it never happening again.

Does she get up to wee in the night?? My DS goes for a wee pretty much every night without fail.

Avondale89 · 28/06/2023 20:30

IneedanewTV · 27/06/2023 22:45

I think you are making too much fuss about it. Try to be matter of fact, deal with it and move on. She will outgrow it. As a society we are happy to still Breast feed 5 year olds but disappointed if they wet themselves??

Are we happy as a society to breastfeed 5 year olds? Not sure that’s an accurate statement! I’d argue that elements in this country have issues accepting breastfeeding newborns..

Lilly0909 · 28/06/2023 20:22

I'm a reception teacher.
You need to look at the cause of why she's doing it, she can't tear herself away. She isn't being malicious.
Look into ADHD and possibly ASD assessments.

Majesty · 27/06/2023 22:52

thanks for all the responses. I don’t think she’s impacted as she poos regularly once or twice a day? I’ll look into it though! I did take her to the gp who didn’t mention it at all

shes Not upset before or when it happens so I don’t think it’s caused by distress. It’s almost always when she’s playing outside, or watching tv or doing something she doesn’t want to stop doing?

@MuggleMe she shows no signs of ND, her older sibling has complex needs so Its something I have watched for in her. She is quite eloquent and teachers tell me she has good communication skills

@ScrollingLeaves i didn’t take it like that at all :)

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IneedanewTV · 27/06/2023 22:45

I think you are making too much fuss about it. Try to be matter of fact, deal with it and move on. She will outgrow it. As a society we are happy to still Breast feed 5 year olds but disappointed if they wet themselves??

ConcordeOoter · 27/06/2023 22:45

maybe for 5/6 days and then it stops for a month or two

Does this coincide with something that might be distressing her?

TalkingSchist · 27/06/2023 22:41

WimbledonPimms · 27/06/2023 22:34

Ask for a referral to the Paeds continence nurse. My eldest had this due to being impacted. Their stools were mostly normal but it was overflow.

They had no control over it although to an outsider it could have looked as if they simply couldn't be bothered to go to the loo/were engrossed in what they were doing

Not only this, the increased pressure makes it hard for the body to recognise the feeling of needing to wee, since they become desensitised to the full feeling.

Also, they may be fearful to go to the toilet incase they poo, as pooing is likely to be painful. My daughter always had accidents when she was withholding poo. It’s a vicious cycle as withholding obviously causes impaction.

My daughter still pooed semi regularly, but it was bypass. And she had an excellent diet (although did have cmpa which had an impact)

MuggleMe · 27/06/2023 22:40

If it definitely seems because she was too busy playing, I'd be getting her involved in getting changed and clearing up the mess - taking off her wet clothes with help, washing herself, putting them in the washing machine and fetching clean ones to put on.

Could you also do regular timers and incorporate toileting into transitions e.g. before mealtimes and leaving the house.

My DD was a nightmare at this but later diagnosed with ASD and apparently having less awareness of things like needing the loo is part of that. Any other behaviours you might consider neurodiverse?

WimbledonPimms · 27/06/2023 22:34

Ask for a referral to the Paeds continence nurse. My eldest had this due to being impacted. Their stools were mostly normal but it was overflow.

They had no control over it although to an outsider it could have looked as if they simply couldn't be bothered to go to the loo/were engrossed in what they were doing

HappiDaze · 27/06/2023 22:34

Basically don't presume a child knows what they mean 100%

HappiDaze · 27/06/2023 22:33

*Wets herself

HappiDaze · 27/06/2023 22:32

Remember that because she's only 5 she might not be using the right words to properly explain herself.

It could well be what PP are pointing out ie constipation, faecal impaction which of course she has no idea what that is or how that affects her reasoning as to why she was herself

kwetu · 27/06/2023 22:31

Ineedsleepandcoffee · 27/06/2023 22:21

My daughter was similar, turned out she had fecal impaction even though she didn't display symptoms of constipation

⬆️ this ⬆️

TalkingSchist · 27/06/2023 22:31

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 27/06/2023 22:27

I fully agree.

My 7 year old has been trained since 2 and still does this - fortunately it’s rare these days, it last happened about two months ago. She has suffered with impaction since she was an infant.

Just because they are going to the toilet does not mean they are not impacted.

Stompythedinosaur · 27/06/2023 22:30

Getting angry and punishing her won't help.

Having the odd accident at 5 isn't unusual at all.

I think you are probably paying too much attention to her account of "I just chose to wet myself". I doubt this is right. It's very common for dc of that age to not really know why they did something, or not to be able to recall, and to give the account they thing the adult is expecting.

Her brain isn't developed like an adult brain yet. She lacks impulse control, which is something she needs to stop playing and go to the toilet.

Just don't make a big deal of it tbh. It will pass.

Summerishereagain · 27/06/2023 22:29

I’m going to 3rd constipation. My kids have both had mild issues with it and it’s lead to wee accidents.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 27/06/2023 22:29

** possible cause, sorry.

ScrollingLeaves · 27/06/2023 22:29

So sorry, that sounded short and glib. I did not mean to be judging you, and maybe there is a simpler solution. My very little experience of this was that it was a reaction to some stresses but I can see there could be different reasons and solutions.

justasking111 · 27/06/2023 22:28

They do get involved and leave it too late sometimes. I'd stop with the stickers, treats, loo every hour. Just make sure she goes before you leave the house. My youngest couldn't have squash irritated his bladder. Left school needing the loo so we had to stop on the road sometimes.

Tandora · 27/06/2023 22:27

I don’t think you should punish her for wetting herself…

I think the best thing to do is to try to make as little a deal out of it as possible and ride it out. This will pass. I understand how frustrating it must be though..

Coffeeisnecessary · 27/06/2023 22:26

My son went through a stage of doing this, I honestly think it was just pure laziness which he eventually outgrew but at the time it felt like it lasted ages. He would be so absorbed in what he was doing he just couldn't be bothered. It was very frustrating but feels like a distant memory now. I agree on just neutral cleaning her up and hope it passes quickly for you!

RosesAndHellebores · 27/06/2023 22:25

Just be matter of fact and kind. This too shall.pass.

ScrollingLeaves · 27/06/2023 22:24

Take it that she is distressed about something and try to think what it is. Then go from there.