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To think that dental care is now only for the wealthy in the UK

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Tygertiger · 06/02/2023 18:33

I would love to be considered U here and if I am, please explain it to me.

I have been in the privileged position until now of having an NHS dentist. Obviously I still pay a fee for every visit (not entitled to free healthcare) but it’s still cheaper than private dental fees. We’ve now been told that our practice is going private as of next year and will offer monthly payment plans, the cheapest of which is £19 a month. I’ve been on the NHS site and there are no other NHS dentists in the local area, at all.

So how do poor people afford to go to the dentist? If they can’t afford a monthly insurance plan?

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Boneweary · 06/02/2023 20:03

It’s impossible finding an NHS dentist in some areas. It’s frustrating as my dental treatment should be free (pregnant) and DS is only two, but we both have to pay as private patients.

strongallowed · 06/02/2023 20:02

Give it a few more years and this will be the way of all healthcare.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 06/02/2023 20:02

I've always paid for a private dentist. I want to look after my teeth, as they're mine, why should anyway else pay for my dental care?

So you never use the NHS for anything, then? Do you figure that, if you had a heart attack, it would be up to you to pay for your related healthcare, as it's your heart? Why are teeth different? We're not just talking about people who want gleaming white gnashers for Instagram; it's also people in agony with serious medical conditions that will cost them thousands to have dealt with, if and when they can ever afford it.

OhmygodDont · 06/02/2023 20:02

I’ve actually have an audiology appointment via a go referral because a cold/flu/covid has made me deaf suddenly in one ear. 3 week turn around.

Bur I agree my hears and eyes haven’t been tested since I was primary age. I actually remember going to the dentist with the school as a class thing twice a year.

strongallowed · 06/02/2023 20:01

Whammyyammy · 06/02/2023 19:59

I've always paid for a private dentist. I want to look after my teeth, as they're mine, why should anyway else pay for my dental care?

Why should anyone pay for you to have a baby? Or treat your cancer? Or x Ray your broken limb? What a ridiculous state,ent unless you apply it to everything about your health.

Jellykat · 06/02/2023 20:00

Whammyyammy · 06/02/2023 19:59

I've always paid for a private dentist. I want to look after my teeth, as they're mine, why should anyway else pay for my dental care?

Well lucky you!

strongallowed · 06/02/2023 20:00

Dwellingbuyingdilemma · 06/02/2023 19:37

In surprised about waiting lists to get on an NHS dentist books. When I was ringing round I was told it's just a case of ringing at the right time and first come first served. So If you happen to ring on the right random Thursday that their books are open they'll accept you. I didn't realise this wasn't the case UK wide

Some counties (like mine) don't have a single NHS space and the waiting list is years long and are closed to new people. Then most NHS dentists are shutting all their services round here one by one and going fully private.

Almost everyone I know (adults and children) don't go anymore. They will only go if there's a problem I guess and only then if think they can afford it (unlike for some of the communities round here)

Jellykat · 06/02/2023 20:00

DS2s Denplan alone is £28 a month!! they bumped up the cost after he couldnt get 2 fillings done because they were closed during lockdown! ..
Youre on a very good deal warmmfeet!

Whammyyammy · 06/02/2023 19:59

I've always paid for a private dentist. I want to look after my teeth, as they're mine, why should anyway else pay for my dental care?

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 06/02/2023 19:58

I never understand why, when we have an NHS, teeth and eyes are just arbitrarily excluded. Yes, I know that some people qualify for a free eye test, but you're then on your own if you need glasses. What is the justification for excluding these two essential things - especially when the NHS does cover certain things that, it could be argued, are significantly less important/urgent than teeth and eyes?

Didn't it used to be a commonly-done thing, decades ago, that, on reaching young adulthood, people would have all of their healthy teeth removed and replaced with dentures - on the grounds that they would then have no further dental bills to worry about for the rest of their lives? I gather that some parents would even pay for this as a coming-of-age present for their children, to 'set them up' dentally for life. Whoever would have thought that, in 2023, in one of the world's richest countries, it would look like we were headed the same way again?

strongallowed · 06/02/2023 19:55

warmmfeet · 06/02/2023 18:48

It's almost like it's being slowly privatised right under our noses! I've recently accepted the way things are and signed my family all up to private dental care. Denplan is £30 a month for a family of 4. I know not everyone could spare that atm and it's tough. I'm just hoping we will always have access to free emergency care, cancer care, mental health, maternity services etc

Does that cover ALL your dental treatment? (If so, that's not bad for 4 people) or does it just cover check ups and 10% off your treatment bill or something which is all I ever seem to find offered.

MissMaple82 · 06/02/2023 19:54

Newpuppymummy · 06/02/2023 18:34

People on benefits get free dental care

Erm, but they need an NHS dentist first!!!

Jellykat · 06/02/2023 19:53

No NHS dentists around here in Wales, i've paid privately on Denplan for my DCs for well over 20 years, however my teeth were in such a poor state i couldnt afford to get them sorted to the point of being accepted on Denplan..
6 years ago used to travel on a 2 hour round trip to see an NHS dentist, but then they closed, so that was that.
I'm in serious dental trouble but what can i do? Even if i could afford it my local dentist isnt even accepting new private patients!

ChungusBoi · 06/02/2023 19:51

Amboseli · 06/02/2023 19:22

@Sazzling I think within 2 years Lithuania will have a higher standard of living than the UK and Poland a few years after so there's 2 options.

I'd much rather spend my money in a poor country where it will help the local people than in the UK where the simple basics are extortionate.

I've just fallen out of love with the UK if that makes sense. Like a relationship that's over and it's because we have a population willing to vote for the Tories and brexit. I just don't belong here.

This is EXACTLY how I feel. I’ve lost respect for the UK population as a whole. I don’t belong. Our values are too different.

Endlesssummer2022 · 06/02/2023 19:50

And yet many of you would still vote for Brexit 2 or the Tories again if given half the chance. Zero time for people who complain after getting what they voted for.

wishful2012 · 06/02/2023 19:50

Got a letter this morning saying my dentist was going private and when their junior dentist had time to see NHS patients we’d be seen. Would have to pay £18 a month to see her twice and a hygienist twice a year.

HistoryFanatic · 06/02/2023 19:49

queenofthewild · 06/02/2023 19:36

YANBU. I'm not well off. Thankfully I have strong teeth, but it still costs me £300 a year in check ups and hygienist appointments.

Then there's the cost of opticians and glasses.

And GPs in my area won't refer to audiology until you've paid a small fortune for private microsuctioning now.

Good dental, audiology and optical care makes a huge difference to health and well-being and this is being denied to so many people.

I feel lucky for the free hearing aids I get here .

justadress · 06/02/2023 19:48

I've been trying to sign up to an NHS dentist for years. There are no spaces near me. I can't afford private prices!

OH has an NHS dentist but was referred to a private clinic for some treatment- something the NHS don't do- so he had to put in on a credit card, almost 1k!

HistoryFanatic · 06/02/2023 19:47

Newpuppymummy · 06/02/2023 18:34

People on benefits get free dental care

Not true. If you are on UC and earn above a certain amount it isn't free.

peanutbutter00 · 06/02/2023 19:40

There are many areas in England (not sure about rest of the U.K.) with absolutely no NHS dentists, stories online of people travelling a hundred miles for a dental appointment. The government seem to be doing absolutely nothing about it, profits over people yet again

Dwellingbuyingdilemma · 06/02/2023 19:37

In surprised about waiting lists to get on an NHS dentist books. When I was ringing round I was told it's just a case of ringing at the right time and first come first served. So If you happen to ring on the right random Thursday that their books are open they'll accept you. I didn't realise this wasn't the case UK wide

macaronitoni · 06/02/2023 19:37

YANBU. Horrific. Worrying for the future of the country

Amortentia · 06/02/2023 19:36

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 06/02/2023 19:30

We can't get an NHS dentist so have been paying private. I now need fillings replaced at £500 and a root canal fix which has been quoted at £1,800 with a 60 % success rate. If it fails it would be an implant at £2,200. This one tooth could cost me £4,000 but I just can't afford it.

Bloody hell! I have an NHS dentist but paid private prices to get a white filling and it cost me £120. I’m very lucky that I’m in Glasgow and there are still plenty of NHS dentist here. Plus, both my kids have left school but are still covered until they’re 26. Although, I’ve have just coughed up thousands for a brace for one of them. Orthodontists are ridiculously expensive and are impossibly unaffordable for many.

queenofthewild · 06/02/2023 19:36

YANBU. I'm not well off. Thankfully I have strong teeth, but it still costs me £300 a year in check ups and hygienist appointments.

Then there's the cost of opticians and glasses.

And GPs in my area won't refer to audiology until you've paid a small fortune for private microsuctioning now.

Good dental, audiology and optical care makes a huge difference to health and well-being and this is being denied to so many people.

tornadoinsideoutfig · 06/02/2023 19:35

Newpuppymummy · 06/02/2023 18:34

People on benefits get free dental care

Not even my 16 year old at college gets free dental care. Our dentist went private and I can't find another even accepting children.

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