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Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

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whytesnow · 02/01/2023 23:40

And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

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ChigedyJigHeeHawHeeHawItsDominicTheDonkey · 03/01/2023 10:15

Aussiegirl123456 · 03/01/2023 05:35

Couldn’t make it up!
I post bragging I’ve barely ever seen any snakes or spiders since I’ve lived here. Went to go outside to lay in the sun and this little fella is by my back door!
I have just relocated it into the bush land behind our house, he/she was friendly. I almost didn’t move to Aus because I was scared of snakes. Look at me now!
Non venomous carpet python.

🥰🥰

ChigedyJigHeeHawHeeHawItsDominicTheDonkey · 03/01/2023 10:12

RambamThankyouMam · 03/01/2023 05:21

UK.

Australia is full of racists and poisonous insects/arachnids.

I think you'll find the UK has more than its fair share of racist people too!!

psychomath · 03/01/2023 09:56

The ones who would miss the quick pop over for a European break - there's such a disconnect between that and the people who are on here who can't afford heating or rent.

That's kind of the point though - you don't have to be rich to go on a European break. Looking on Skyscanner now I can find flights to Portugal for less than £20. Even Sydney to New Zealand or Bali costs a few hundred pounds, and the flight is long enough that you'd probably want to spend more than just a long weekend there, which then brings up considerations of how easy it is to take time off work and so on.

I'm always amazed by the fact that people think it's fine to come onto these threads and be so openly rude about another country, especially when it's done from ignorance, e.g. the comments assuming Australia is a land of racists with no culture that consists of nothing but empty desert and spiders. (As for people saying they prefer the UK because Australia treats indigenous people badly... no words.) But it's not bashing to say it's more difficult to holiday abroad from Australia than the UK because of its size and relative isolation, that's just a fact.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 09:49

MattDamon · 03/01/2023 09:44

There are pluses and minuses to every country, OP. I've lived and worked all over and I would say go for the experience and adventure of it all. I have friends all over the world now which I consider absolutely priceless.

This made me laugh:

What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged

I worked and socialised with a ton of Aussies in my twenties and they all modified their accents to sound more 'London'. After work, when the alcohol came out, so did their real accents. 😆

Ha very true. Plus there is a slight difference in Aussie accents which means you’ll get some emulating in a social circle

marvellousmaple · 03/01/2023 09:47

KnickerlessParsons · 03/01/2023 00:12

U.K. all the way. Aus is too far from anywhere else - even NZ is a four hour plane ride - and everywhere in Aus is too far from everywhere else in Aus, yet everywhere looks exactly the same.
The TV is crap. There are sharks in the sea. The food isn't good. Amazon service is poor. It's v hot in the summer. They aren't very nice to the indigenous people.

I think you might find ( if you have a wee think about it) that is was you English that "weren't very nice to the indigenous people". Bloody hell being told off by someone from England about treating indigenous people badly! Bahahaha fecking ha.
( Also , just quietly , yes sharks do live in the sea - not sure where you thought they lived but you don't sound very bright , so please stay in the UK with your excellent TV).
Also our food is amazing and if you choose to live somewhere based on Amazon delivery times well , umm, the UK is welcome to you.

MattDamon · 03/01/2023 09:44

There are pluses and minuses to every country, OP. I've lived and worked all over and I would say go for the experience and adventure of it all. I have friends all over the world now which I consider absolutely priceless.

This made me laugh:

What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged

I worked and socialised with a ton of Aussies in my twenties and they all modified their accents to sound more 'London'. After work, when the alcohol came out, so did their real accents. 😆

StartupRepair · 03/01/2023 09:44

If you are not wealthy in UK, going to Australia will not suddenly change that. If you are highly educated with good professional qualifications and experience you will enjoy a good standard of living in either country.

maplewalnut · 03/01/2023 09:43

My spouse and I moved to Australia a few years ago and couldn't be happier. Our incomes have gone up, we have a gorgeous house with a pool, have bought a boat, hubby literally goes surfing before work, have made lovely friends, 20 mins to large city centre with lots going on. Yes, we do miss many things about Europe - not many things about the UK in its current state sadly. The biggest bonus for me is no longer working for the NHS. I love my job now.
Once retired we will prob spend half the year back in Europe (not necessarily UK) but we are very very pleased and grateful to be where we are just now. It's not perfect but for us the move Down Under has been overwhelmingly positive.

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 03/01/2023 09:38

There was a similar thread a few weeks ago OP, maybe have a look for some further insight.

I don’t understand people saying not very nice things about the Aussies. I’ve always thought the Brits and Aussies get on really well, similar sense of humour etc. It certainly felt that way when I met lots in the ‘90s in London and when we visited Australia.

Anyway, having said that, I wouldn’t choose to live there simply because of family in the UK and preferring our seasons and weather.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/01/2023 09:25

UK. Climate change.

SD1978 · 03/01/2023 09:24

@cantley - on my income, that's not the case. However I know some people do have the chance to great opportunities! I'm Northside of Melbourne- pretty rubbish schools, low(ish) income area, however have some expat colleagues with the experience much more inline with yours. Personally I find it a struggle, with limited opportunities to improve that, and wish I could be closer to family in the UK. Fares are becoming so expensive!

psychomath · 03/01/2023 09:18

beejeez · 03/01/2023 06:09

But that's the same as London. You can still life somewhere classed as London but be a 30 minute train ride away!

I don't know - Milton Keynes is about half an hour from Euston but it's not in London? Although maybe I misunderstood and she meant half an hour by commuter train. Either way, my impression is that it would be harder to get around in Australia than it is here without learning to drive first, which is the main reason I haven't visited yet.

BedTaker · 03/01/2023 08:54

cantley · 03/01/2023 07:06

The bashing of Australia on Mumsnet always intrigues me.
People referring to missing " culture" as if when they leave the UK there's no culture anywhere else.
The ones who would miss the quick pop over for a European break - there's such a disconnect between that and the people who are on here who can't afford heating or rent.
I understand people wanting to stay in their own country ( the UK ) but unhinged bashing of another country that many thousand of people emigrate to to for a better quality of life seems bizarre.
Stay there if you want to, don't feel threatened by the OP or other posters who've chosen to move away.

If you can't afford heating or rent, then you are unlikely to be able to afford to emigrate to and live in Australia.

All the people I know who have gone are already fairly well off.

BedTaker · 03/01/2023 08:50

2 hours on a plane from the UK - completely different culture, different architecture, different food, different language, different things to see, different weather, endless possibilities really.

2 hours on a plane from Australia - a town/city exactly the same as the one you just left, desert with nothing for hundreds of miles around, or....the sea.

Also, I found the people there very racist, although it was a good while ago now and I would hope that is changing.

I can just about understand moving to the East/South East Coast. But why so many Brits move to Perth is absolutely beyond me!

Prescottdanni123 · 03/01/2023 08:47

Have you ever been to Australia? I'd recommend a visit first to get an idea of what living over there would be like. You might find that it is not as idyllic as it seems. Or it might be everything you are dreaming of, in which case, brilliant. Make the move.

Another thing to consider is whether your qualifications carry over or if you will have to do some training and get the Oz equivalent. Will you get the same wages for the job you do? Or more or less?
How will the cost of living over there compare to the wage you will get?

Oakbeam · 03/01/2023 08:41

My ideal would be 50/50.

I have never found the wildlife to be a problem, apart from the flies.

Takemyhand123 · 03/01/2023 08:39

If you can @whytesnow just plan to head over there for a year or so, it will do no harm and the UK is always waiting for you if you wanted to come back.

I went at 31 and had the time of my life, the expat community is amazing in Sydney and everybody just up for having lots of fun. Every weekend is beach, or outdoor walks, or fitness classes outside so you end up very healthy.

I don't understand the hatred on here for Aus, in the 4 years I was there I never saw one snake or spider in Sydney.

Melbourne has UK weather, v much like living in Europe I'd say.

I earned far far more over there and I could see a doctor within 20 mins of walking into a surgery, with no appointment.

You'll never ever regret giving it a go 😊I returned with a husband and a baby and would do it all again in a heartbeat.

Tekkentime · 03/01/2023 08:37

Do we have to hate on one country to appreciate the other?

The UK isn't dying and Australia isn't full of racists with snakes hiding under your pillow!

echt · 03/01/2023 08:33

MulberryMoon · 03/01/2023 05:51

Is that what you really think or you live there and don't want people moving there?

I live there and the more the merrier. I took exception to the OP's scantly detailed and frankly goady OP.

Talulah29 · 03/01/2023 08:30

From experience I would say the whole ‘cost of living in Aus is so much more expensive’ is really dependent on the individual & their lifestyle. We’ve found it all to be kind of relevant and like previous posters have said some things are cheaper, some more expensive.

It would be an amazing opportunity to give it a go, even if just for a year or so. You’ve got nothing to lose!

The only thing I would say is that at the moment the increased age limit for the working holiday visa has not been put into place so the current age limit for UK passport holders is still 30. It’s part of a trade agreement so hopefully will be done sooner rather than later but hasn’t just yet. That said I believe once it is then you can apply for the WHV until the day before you turn 36 so hopefully that could still work for you :-)

A2M4 · 03/01/2023 08:24

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EasterIsland · 03/01/2023 08:23

Australia isn’t just Britain with sunshine, you know. And the major cities are very expensive. Sydney is London prices for housing, for example.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 07:58

Oh I read US for some reason, ignore that

Me personally - London but depends where you are in U.K. - compare lifestyles that you can achieve with salary too

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 07:57

I’ve lived in both and U.K. I prefer London atm but out of the other two I’d say Aus

But US is so vast with different vibes that you’d have to consider where you’d be

Blackheath95 · 03/01/2023 07:48

StartupRepair · 03/01/2023 07:07

@Blackheath95 I think you mistook my post for someone else's.

Sorry it was meant for @timetogetlost