Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

Oh yes, life expectancy is higher in Australia, possibly because people in the UK drink more alcohol than Australians 😂

Just an FYI to the “climate change” concerned posters. You do know the ozone layer above Australia has healed itself? And solar power is really encouraged as well. And there are a lot of hybrid vehicles available on the market now. Since the winters in some places are very mild, there’s not much call for heating either.

There’s a useful little website called datacommons.com and you can compare Australia to the UK on all sorts of things.

Now, per capita, on the surface, it appears as though Australia is really not winning any prizes for carbon emissions.

However, if you then compare the two countries using MetricTon to try to discern which country actually pumps out more carbon emissions, the UK loses out to Australia. Possibly because Harry and Meghan do love jetting around in private planes so who knows how much just they added to the emissions last year!

But on a serious note, check out that website, you can compare the two countries by searching for one country then under any graph that you would like more information about, there’s a “explore more” that you can use and then you can put in the other country.

Very useful little website indeed!

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This!

Have you ever been there? If you can get a visa I’d go there to work but not to live. It’s always been NZ for me as all of my lot are there. Although I have family in Oz too.

@PinkPrettyAndPointed Our accents are no better or worse than some accents I came across in the UK. What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged.

You got that so right! I’ve never understood the fake accent thing.

Love it in Australia. I'd move tomorrow if I could. I prefer pretty much everything there to our grey UK

I actually just spoke to DH about this while looking out the window at the grey cloud and pissing rain, then reading the forecast which says we can expect 1 day without rain in the next 2 weeks (and even then, just cloudy). I would dearly love to move anywhere that has a better climate, English speaking and relatively safe with reasonable public services. But I just don’t know how to go about it and my profession isn’t transferable. Absolutely sucks.

To be honest our crumbling A&Es are more of an imminent concern to me than climate change.

@bumblenbean I'm so sorry, I just got a bit confused 😳

Do a WHV or holiday and see what you think.

For me the UK but there are so many variables and you need to see which place suits you.

Thanks @JoanOfAllTrades and @Oakbeam !

That post was for @Oakbeam

I suspect you really meant @bumblenbean

I’d factor in climate change to any move

That post was for @Oakbeam

Ideally October because then you can get a bit acclimatised to the weather before it gets really hot. You can then scope out some suburbs in your chosen location and schools before the summer holidays. School years run from February to December and unlike the UK, there are only 12 school years, not 13, and your DC will be in the year below the one they are in currently in the UK. Some people say education isn’t as good as the UK but private schools such as Catholic ones, are much more affordable. Some non-dom schools, Anglican, Methodist etc., are more expensive but you cut your cloth to your own means.

I'm currently on holiday in Aus to see family. Toying with moving back with DH and three kids.

Plus and minuses and both good places to live but we had to get my 6 year seen by a GP on NYE morning, which was also a Saturday. We had an app within an hour, antibiotics ten mins later. I was shocked. As were my friends and family at our reaction that it was something to marvel. I love the UK but it's starting to really grate on me how basic things like healthcare are so terrible.

I'm in Sydney currently but we actually quite liked Perth, less busy, money goes further on property. It's a great place to live but yes there are some issues but for heavens sake you don't see snakes and spiders and racists around every corner!

OP id go for it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that!

Thank you for this, so many people seem to forget that indigenous history goes back at least 60,000 years and yes, whilst the govt do have a “close the gap” policy, it’s not really enough.

There is a huge disconnect between what indigenous people actually need versus what is actually given. Finally, in some states and territories, there is a big push for indigenous languages to passed down, but not enough elders remember the languages because of the the stolen generations.

Australia is lovely for white people, or even people of colour from other countries. It’s not so lovely for indigenous people. It can also be hard for indigenous people to leave unless they are fortunate enough to have a parent or grandparents from another country that they can then get dual nationality for and thus move around/seek out other places that may be open to them via a different passport.

I would move pretty much anywhere to get a functional healthcare system. Frightened of getting old in the UK.

Australia wouldn’t be my first choice but it’s a big and interesting country with a good standard of life and friendly people. I would probably do it if I could.

Has anyone managed to navigate a move there for a year or a few years with young kids?! Not sure what the best time would be to take the plunge if we did …

Not me but a close relative. They returned to the UK just before DC got to university age.

Lol at a British poster complaining that Australians aren't nice to indigenous people. I take it world history isn't your forte?

Although, if Brits had been nice to indigenous people, there wouldn’t be any Australians to complain about Brits complaining about Australians.

Interesting thread - it does amuse me that people berate Aus as racist / uncultured etc. yes it’s not perfect but the UK is hardly a bastion of tolerance and class.

In your place OP I would definitely try a holiday (perhaps a working holiday) first before committing to a move. If you’ve never been, upping sticks and moving there ‘blind’ may be a bit of a culture shock.

I have dual nationality and have spent a lot of time in Australia. I love the way of living out there. I’m really keen to live there for a few years in the future but baulk at doing it permanently because of family and friends (DH is also hesitant for this reason). But with two young kids, I’m not sure we could make the logistics of a temporary move work (they would lose their school places, we’d have to try to rent out our house, would have to give up secure/ well paid jobs and try to find jobs there etc).

Has anyone managed to navigate a move there for a year or a few years with young kids?! Not sure what the best time would be to take the plunge if we did …

Lol at a British poster complaining that Australians aren't nice to indigenous people. I take it world history isn't your forte?

Imagine being schooled by the Brits about the treatment of indigenous people.

Oh imperialism...

Been here many many years and have come to loathe it here.
I started out loving it but that changed as time went on and saw how it really was here.

That said, I wouldn't pick the UK either.

I’d love to AUS in a heartbeat, I loved it there. Unfortunately work visas don’t go in our favour so that’s that.