Page 4 | Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

whytesnow · 2023-01-02T23:40:47+00:00

And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 03/01/2023 20:08

whytesnow · 03/01/2023 00:55

What draws me to aus is the weather healthy lifestyle when am here and it's cold i don't want to leave the house, workout or go a walk but in the summer i love doing those things.I love that it's just like the U.K. but sunny almost all my friends have settled down here I split up with my ex a year ago so newly single, plus they have changed the age to 35 for a working visa I will be 34 this year

So OP, did you get the answer you were looking for? Lol

Alexandra2001 · 03/01/2023 20:04

echt · 03/01/2023 00:43

Australia is fucking awful in every way possible. Stay where you are.

My BiL has lived there for 22 years, he came back a while ago and said he will never return to the UK again.
Neighbours went there about 10 years ago and have never back since...

My DD will be there in March, she's been there before and loved it, will work in their healthservice from NHS.

Most brits who emigrate don't come back.

MargaretMead · 03/01/2023 20:03

You’re still young enough to get a working visa so I would go for it and see how it feels. You can come back if you don’t settle. If you are thinking about moving long term though, Aus is supposed to be getting hotter and drier with climate change, and the summer heat is already extreme in some areas so choose your location with care.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 20:02

Re when it will happen people seem more certain than others, maybe they should get their views out there.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 20:01

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:59

Australian passports? I'm pretty sure that Australia will not be up for accepting loads of European climate refugees travelling on foreign passports when the Gulf Stream shuts down. And with the increasing rate of climate change I would certainly not bank on it happening "after I'm gone".

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Yep I’m dual citizen. Have both and so can dc.

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:59

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 19:52

I have looked at this and it would make me move, but no timing on when. So it could be after I’m gone but I will get dc passports just in case.

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Australian passports? I'm pretty sure that Australia will not be up for accepting loads of European climate refugees travelling on foreign passports when the Gulf Stream shuts down. And with the increasing rate of climate change I would certainly not bank on it happening "after I'm gone".

LadyMary50 · 03/01/2023 19:58

wyntersuhn · 03/01/2023 02:20

I'm English, living in Australia and would never, ever contemplate moving back. The lifestyle here is amazing. Even if you're on the bare bones of your butt, you can go outside pretty much every day of the year and enjoy a walk, a trip to the park, the beach etc. It's glorious. Wages match living costs, but we do have a rental crisis at present, so buying a house is the best option. Healthy food is cheap, exercise is cheap, healthcare is easily accessible (and mostly free or you can get health insurance to go private), you can choose what school your children go to and move them easily if you want. Plenty of people are moving here right now, for the reasons above (partly why we have a rental problem). Lots of space, you don't have to live in your neighbour's pocket and most people have large gardens with beautiful parks nearby. Most places have good public transport (we're at the beach on holidays at present and my nephew and niece will be catching the train down shortly - pretty much door to door, plus safe, quick, reliable and cheap). Contrary to popular opinion, we're not inundated with snakes, spiders and sharks, they are an incredibly rare occurrence. Honestly, the best place to live, I wouldn't be anywhere else.

You took the words right out of my mouth.My daughter moved to Melbourne 20yrs ago after doing a working holiday the previous year,she now has a beautiful home,an Aussie partner and 2 children.I visit whenever I get the chance and I bloody love it.I love the space,the incredible transport system,the friendly people and of course the lovely weather.If I was 30yrs younger I would be living there in a heartbeat.I couldn’t wish for a better place for my grandkids to live and grow.

Cookiecrumblepie · 03/01/2023 19:58

Healthcare alone makes me want to move to Aus. I am currently healthy, but if I had any serious illness or started ageing, I would move. The NHS is broken. I don't want to die waiting for treatment.

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:54

PandoraRocks · 03/01/2023 19:40

Why would you want to live in a country with Huntsman spiders? Gives me the shudders just looking at them! 😱

I always thought that that was such a strange reason to not move countries - a pretty harmless spider that you might see once a year? I just catch them with a plastic container and put then outside.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 19:52

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:49

Yeah - climate change will likely lead to the gulf stream shutting down, which means that the UK freezes. Deep, Canadian style cold. I think that climate change may end up hitting the UK really hard and really suddenly.

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I have looked at this and it would make me move, but no timing on when. So it could be after I’m gone but I will get dc passports just in case.

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:49

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 16:42

It’s not so much which country produces more carbon for me but which countries will feel the impact more.

I’d factor that in to any move. There’s probably not that much in it for U.K. v Aus in some ways - depends on how things pan out but some countries are already suffering more

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Yeah - climate change will likely lead to the gulf stream shutting down, which means that the UK freezes. Deep, Canadian style cold. I think that climate change may end up hitting the UK really hard and really suddenly.

PandoraRocks · 03/01/2023 19:40

Why would you want to live in a country with Huntsman spiders? Gives me the shudders just looking at them! 😱

VoiceOfCommonSense · 03/01/2023 19:33

Whammyyammy · 03/01/2023 19:06

I love both UK and Aus, and the people in both.
But I am petrified of spiders, and there a big no to Oz for that reason.

Honestly I’ve been here for 11 years and hardly seen any. A few while cleaning out the garage but it’s not like they were poisonous. People seem to have this impression that the place is full of spiders, snakes and sharks.

RocketIceLollie · 03/01/2023 19:27

I went for an extended Christmas holiday ten years ago when I was single (we have a lot my Mum's side of the family there in Melbourne) and I had an eye on making the move thereafter. It was going great, great lifestyle there, but it hit me on Christmas Day hearing my parents on the phone I couldn't do it. Also, with Australia it's very expensive there. Just your day to day grocery is notably more expensive, and hardly anyone seems to own their own property.

Cuppasoupmonster · 03/01/2023 19:21

Mybonnielad · 03/01/2023 16:43

I am just going to comment on your weather and healthy liftestyle. Firstly your lifestyle is all you, you either choose to be healthy or you don’t. If you don’t currently have a healthy lifestyle, then arriving in Australia is not going to change that

Patently untrue and very offensive to the thousands of people who are ill through no fault of their own.

Well I’m ‘ill’ through no fault of my own but I don’t think the poster meant it like that. However I think he/she is wrong - it is infinitely more tempting and do-able to walk places, go for runs, and live an active lifestyle when it isn’t 10 degrees and pissing down for 50% of the year. Take last weekend - rained all fucking weekend, and very windy. We’d planned to take the dog and DD to a local beach for a long stroll - cancelled. Thought if it cleared up we could take DD to the park. It didn’t - cancelled. The garden needs sorting - too wet. I wanted to walk into town to go to a couple of shops - didn’t, thought I would put it off for another day. And on it goes. We must waste at least half our days sat inside waiting for the rain to stop, and that’s no exaggeration. Indoor activities always cost so much money that you can’t do them all the time and being out in the fresh air is so much nicer anyway, physically and mentally.

howmanybicycles · 03/01/2023 19:09

UK. My family and friends are too important to me to only see them once every few years. There's nothing Australia can offer which is more important than them.

Whammyyammy · 03/01/2023 19:06

I love both UK and Aus, and the people in both.
But I am petrified of spiders, and there a big no to Oz for that reason.

VoiceOfCommonSense · 03/01/2023 18:45

Jimboscott0115 · 03/01/2023 00:05

The cost of housing and cost of living is extortionate which immediately puts me off.

The wages are higher but when I did the sums about 5 years ago taking all of this into account I would have been a fair bit worse off financially for a similar lifestyle - things like a weekly shop were going to be significantly more expensive (75% more or thereabouts).

It depends on the jobs and where you live I suppose. We are in Queensland and it’s a lot cheaper compared to New South Wales or Victoria. Cost of living is more but I get paid about 4 times what I did in a similar UK role. Not to mention all the positives especially where we live if beaches, rainforests and tons of other activities. It’s not for everyone, we still get homesick but go back every few years to see friends and family and go on European breaks. My advice to anyone would be to do the sums (I would use seek.com.au for salary information) and if they look ok go over on holiday for a bit and see how you like it. Chances are if your occupation is on the skills list it should be a well paid profession. Just depends how many kids you have and if your partner works as well etc. After 11 years i would never leave!!

EasterIsland · 03/01/2023 18:41

I have been lucky enough to visit NSW/Sydney three times over the past 5 years.

But you've only visited, not lived there. People who've only visited don't understand the realities of life in Australia.

FatCatSkinnyRat · 03/01/2023 18:08

DH and I are both dual nationals and have lived 10+ years in both during our marriage. Currently in UK and no desire to return to Aus.

Be aware that Aus education system is not great when compared to some others. Both our kids were substantially behind when we moved to Asia and into the international schools. Some European international schools flatly refused to take kids from the Aus education system as there's no way they'd catch up.

At school, sports is the top. If you're smart but not sporty you'll have a tough time as academia is not valued at many places. It's not cool to be smart in a lot of schools (not all) unlike here.

There's a lot of "China is evil" in the press. Ask Chinese Australians if it's a racist place. The casual racism is pervasive in society and something we really notice when back.

Plus you'll age really quickly ha ha. I seriously look 15 years younger than my school friends after almost 20 years living outside Aus in various stints.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 03/01/2023 16:54

I never had any inclination to visit Australia until I met and married an Australian! I have been lucky enough to visit NSW/Sydney three times over the past 5 years.

There is alot to consider - if you are after a healthy lifestyle its an incredible place - fantastic food, beaches etc. The people are friendly if not quite blunt, public transport is SO cheap.

However, unless you shell out to live in a city, you will be out in a suburban sprawl.

When their summer/autumns are wet, the bugs are OUT OF CONTROL. Expect to see giant fucking spiders hanging from lampposts and trees.

They are having more and more issues with climate change.

As PP pointed out, it takes fucking ages to get anywhere.

JoanOfAllTrades · 03/01/2023 16:50

xogossipgirlxo · 03/01/2023 16:42

For me, it would be too far away from Europe where I grew up all my life and where I live. Although I get why you're considering moving to Australia. UK got very depressing. Comment about horrible TV in Aus killed me. Almost like TV in the UK is great. I don't even pay TV licence, I don't want this nonsense at home.

There’s no TV licence in Australia! But there is free to view TV, quite a few channels, such as 7, 9, ABC, SBS, 10, maybe some others….. And there’s foxtel which is like Sky, Netflix, Britbox, Disney+, Prime, and others that are available as subscriptions through Prime.

Mybonnielad · 03/01/2023 16:43

I am just going to comment on your weather and healthy liftestyle. Firstly your lifestyle is all you, you either choose to be healthy or you don’t. If you don’t currently have a healthy lifestyle, then arriving in Australia is not going to change that

Patently untrue and very offensive to the thousands of people who are ill through no fault of their own.

xogossipgirlxo · 03/01/2023 16:42

For me, it would be too far away from Europe where I grew up all my life and where I live. Although I get why you're considering moving to Australia. UK got very depressing. Comment about horrible TV in Aus killed me. Almost like TV in the UK is great. I don't even pay TV licence, I don't want this nonsense at home.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 16:42

JoanOfAllTrades · 03/01/2023 16:38

Just an FYI to the “climate change” concerned posters. You do know the ozone layer above Australia has healed itself? And solar power is really encouraged as well. And there are a lot of hybrid vehicles available on the market now. Since the winters in some places are very mild, there’s not much call for heating either.

There’s a useful little website called datacommons.com and you can compare Australia to the UK on all sorts of things.

Now, per capita, on the surface, it appears as though Australia is really not winning any prizes for carbon emissions.

However, if you then compare the two countries using MetricTon to try to discern which country actually pumps out more carbon emissions, the UK loses out to Australia. Possibly because Harry and Meghan do love jetting around in private planes so who knows how much just they added to the emissions last year!

But on a serious note, check out that website, you can compare the two countries by searching for one country then under any graph that you would like more information about, there’s a “explore more” that you can use and then you can put in the other country.

Very useful little website indeed!

It’s not so much which country produces more carbon for me but which countries will feel the impact more.

I’d factor that in to any move. There’s probably not that much in it for U.K. v Aus in some ways - depends on how things pan out but some countries are already suffering more