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Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

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debbrianna · 22/05/2021 11:18

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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Maggiesfarm · 24/05/2021 04:10

@JeanClaudeVanDammit

Christ. How is this better than just having a normal job and going to work?
I would certainly prefer going to work, as long as I enjoyed my work, however hostesses can earn an awful lot more money than in an ordinary job, meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs, work at their leisure, and part time. That is the attraction.

Trafficking is a different matter; that is purely prostitution and the young women involved are little more than slaves. A lot of that goes on with Eastern European girls being conned into coming here or going to the States with the promise of a good job and better life. If they are pretty they end up, with other girls, working as prostitutes and having little of the proceeds, controlled by the Russian mafia. If they are not particularly physically attractive they will be hired out for some sort of manual work. It's a horrible business.

FortunesFave · 24/05/2021 03:45

Wtf did I just read!????

Maggiesfarm · 24/05/2021 02:22

@OldEnoughToBeYourMum

I take back my comment regarding consent and them agreeing to do it because I did just read something which suggested those with booking information on their pages and flying off to Dubai regularly are potentially getting booked via someone else and sometimes being pimped out Sad
Against their will? I mean, threatened, forced? That s trafficking. I've no doubt it does go on there as it does everywhere but most of these parties are staffed by people hired for the purpose of 'hostessing', for which they are quite well paid.
Maggiesfarm · 24/05/2021 02:19

@PottingCompost

Not literal portaloos. It's slang for women being subjected to being used as a toilet, for someone else's sexual gratification
Oh no, that is seriously gross! Ugh.
OldEnoughToBeYourMum · 24/05/2021 02:09

I take back my comment regarding consent and them agreeing to do it because I did just read something which suggested those with booking information on their pages and flying off to Dubai regularly are potentially getting booked via someone else and sometimes being pimped out Sad

PottingCompost · 24/05/2021 01:58

Not literal portaloos. It's slang for women being subjected to being used as a toilet, for someone else's sexual gratification

Maggiesfarm · 24/05/2021 01:54

@Palavah

Wealthy emiratis certainly used to invite young women to 'parties', and these young women received plenty of gifts to thank them for their attendance. I'm sure that won't have stopped.
That happens all over the world & always has. Parties with hired hostess girls. You don't have to go to Dubai for that, it happens in London!

I didn't know about porta potties which I associate with outdoor events and camping. I'd have thought they would have had proper plumbing in Dubai, it's a modern, sophisticated place.

LunaTheCat · 24/05/2021 01:52

Dubai is not a place I would want to visit -their treatment migrant workers and women. I cannot understand the appeal at all.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 24/05/2021 01:44

Christ. How is this better than just having a normal job and going to work?

OldEnoughToBeYourMum · 24/05/2021 01:44

I wasn't aware of any of this but it's people with money everywhere, imo, and it's utterly disgusting. There's been quite a few documentaries on US, British and other European men going to developing countries and sleeping with/exploiting underage girls. That's a massive problem too and the girls don't get the jet set lifestyle at the end (at best they get an old fart with perhaps a comfortable lifestyle and treated like a cooker, cleaner and a sex worker in one for the rest of their lives if they marry them), having had their own families push them to to it at the prospect of money.

I'm not saying the money these people going to Dubai get makes it better because it really doesn't, money really can be the root of evil and I shan't think about what else might be going on. However, are these "influencers" doing this all out of choice for that money or going in a bit blindly? Yes, there are people who are rich and enjoying sadist behaviour, however, if you're aware and willing to go through with that for money, I just feel mostly sad about how those people have been conditioned to want to chase money to that degree themselves that they will agree to be shat on. I haven't done my research because I can't stomach it but I tried to think of how much I'd want for someone to treat me like that and there's literally no money you could offer me to do it. That kind of thing stays with you forever (unless you're genuinely into it all yourself) and it must be so hard to get out of your mind as a PP said.

TurquoiseDragon · 24/05/2021 01:31

@BilboBercow

All of the male influencers are going too. Are they also engaged in prostitution?
Would not surprise me. There have been rumours for a while regarding one or two male Hollywood actors.
oopsydaisyyy · 24/05/2021 01:20

@QueenOfPain

Rich men pay them loads of money to shit on them.
wtf how am I 30 and not know about this?!BlushConfused
Ostara212 · 24/05/2021 01:11

Smurf "Some days, I am deadly serious about joining a convent"

Yes.

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 24/05/2021 00:47

@wizzywig

This reminds me of a Turkish film on Netflix about this topic. I can't remember the name of it. Utterly depressing
If it's the film I'm thinking of, it's Moroccan, not Turkish and it's called Much Loved. It's a very sad film.
EmeraldShamrock · 23/05/2021 23:56

I have always wondered the same OP. How could they afford all of that? Popular influencers are loaded, look at the self made millionaires from YouTube.

EmeraldShamrock · 23/05/2021 23:54

that.my question was for the influencer world and those with lots of followings In regards to the influx of influencers this year using Dubai as a work hub during lockdown was mainly for the relaxed rules around lockdown, sunshine, shopping.
I've no doubt all the seedy stuff happens too just not sure if the top influencers are on that road?
My niece and her pals and some boyfriends went for a fortnight too, they're mesmerized by the cars and glamorous life, they were influenced to go by influencers the fab time they're promoting. Hmm

WatermelonSocks · 23/05/2021 23:22

I have always wondered the same OP. How could they afford all of that?
Re prostitutes offered in parties. My uncle works in a very senior position for a big Japanese car company. They organise yearly parties in several capital cities for their senior members of staff. My uncle decided to go to the one in Brazil back in 2000. The invitation didn't include his wife but they went together anyway. They returned to the hotel after the party has finished to find two undressed young and incredibly pretty girls waiting on the bed!! The girls didn't leave even after seeing my uncle's wife and they spoke no English either. They only left after my uncle and his wife made a big fuss at the reception who then came and asked them to go and wait for their boss in the lobby. Apparently it was the done thing to be offered prostitutes after big parties! Needless to say my uncle's wife has never ever let him attend any of the company parties again.

Smurfsarethefuture · 23/05/2021 23:04

absolutely @EishetChayil

This is a good intro to Debord

hyperallergic.com/313435/an-illustrated-guide-to-guy-debords-the-society-of-the-spectacle/

EishetChayil · 23/05/2021 21:25

That's capitalism.

The society of the spectacle. Debord predicted it in the 1960s.

Pongo101 · 23/05/2021 20:33

I started reading this thread yesterday and had nightmares last night about some of the scenes I read about on those blogs. I didn't even watch the videos.

Then today I was eating some pasta in sauce for lunch and I couldn't stop thinking it was someone's shit and I had to stop eating.

I just can't imagine how you would ever escape from those images if you had been involved in those kind of acts. How do you ever get over fucking a dog or eating someone's crapped out curry? What on earth do you get from a designer handbag that could be worth all that.

Even if you use the money "wisely" to buy a house or set yourself up with a business. What's the point if every time you go to sleep you are haunted by nightmares of someone shitting in your mouth?

Never mind the total fear of never getting off that yacht alive.

For a handbag. Basically a piece of dead cow sewn together to carry around pointless things nobody needs to post on a social media account for people you don't even know. And people will literally eat shit for that.

Something definitely went wrong in consumerist society if these are the things people think they need in life.

Smurfsarethefuture · 23/05/2021 20:00

@debrianna

What code words?

This all makes me feel so sick. Money really does make the world go around. No wonder nothing changes.

KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:34

That was @ZaraW.

KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:34

Oh iswym, no of course not new in that way, oldest profession and all that.

debbrianna · 23/05/2021 17:21

@ZaraW

It was happening twenty years ago and obviously well before that. So I stand by my comment. It's nothing new.
That's not the point of this thread. Prostitution is exist everywhere and there is no denying that.my question was for the influencer world and those with lots of followings. This used to be the same for c- listers who wanted to keep afloat between gigs and strugling models who could not make it but were good-looking. The media always has code words. Dubai just stood out this winter.
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OldWomanSaysThis · 23/05/2021 17:16

I'm old and live in the states and I remember in the 1980's being invited to an "audition" because a Saudi man was looking to fill his harem. You had to sign a one year contract if accepted.

It was just one of those moments when I realized there was a whole different world out there - run by rich men seeking sex in every way shape and form.

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