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Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

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debbrianna · 22/05/2021 11:18

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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Confusedandshaken · 24/05/2021 10:35

It's not just Dubai though. When my daughter and her mates were 18/19/20 they would often be offered free drinks all night to attend upmarket London clubs. The promoters would target Top Shop and Uni bars. These weren't instagrammer glamorous types, just ordinary, averagely pretty students. No obligation of course! All they had to do was be present and wear makeup and heels! Oh and be very young. Funnily enough now they are mid/late twenties the offers no longer come.

JudgeJ · 24/05/2021 10:34

@CaMePlaitPas

As someone who was in Monaco last summer I can confirm that it hasn't completely all moved to Dubai.
I would imagine that if the money's good it would happen anywhere.
JudgeJ · 24/05/2021 10:33

@Tealightsandd

I hadn't heard of any of this.

There's loads of male influencers who go out there too.

I assumed influencers were paid to promote tourism there? Unless - are the male influencers prostitutes too?

Didn't the word used to be gigolo in the stone age I inhabited???
nolongersurprised · 24/05/2021 10:24

I googled and unfortunately saw an image I wish I hadn’t EnvyEnvy

But there is a BBC article on this which specifically mentions Dubai www.bbc.com/news/technology-50828386.amp

queenofarles · 24/05/2021 10:22

Blimey Confused , don’t remember it being like that , we lived there briefly.
There are some big Marketing agencies< actually they do hire the best agencies for their marketing>

that invite models and influencers for a day and make it look like a week long luxury winter break , 5star hotels , lounging in the sun , dinning at places like Armani cafe and Nobu , shopping at One of the big Malls , its this luxury image they are after not the other thing 🤢

EvilPea · 24/05/2021 10:15

@Smurfsarethefuture
Funny you should mention those two places. A quick google should answer you about some tentative questionable links. There’s either two different sides or it’s just attracting the same sort of characters.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 24/05/2021 10:12

FYI that tag the sponsor website link in the linked article tripped my anti virus software

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 24/05/2021 10:07

I am amazed but not surprised by all this. It is all after the oldest "profession" in the world. However whether many are enslaved and not "consciously" selling their souls and body to the devil. Dubai has long been the latest hotspot for these types of arrangements but this goes back to countless decades in not centuries in many geographies and cultures from imperial courtiers to models/actresses, chamber maids, air hostesses, hostess bars, street meat, cam girls to now insta "influencers" complete with all plasticky “enhancements” and all short lived supposedly luxury fast lifestyles. Think colonial and imperial times, royal entourages, spoils of war. One overriding factor demonstrates and resonates, that of the systematic abuse of womankind usually to their long term disadvantage and if not forced or coerced much mental soul searching damage as these lost souls with momentarily material enjoyment will forever be damaged goods and lost souls. It matter not if it is the Hollywood way to bag a royal husband or movie role, or claim me too when the billionaires are finally facing some potentially restorative justice for harm cause to minors but protected by senior royal heads of state etc. It's all the same thing whether it's artificially swanky Dubai, wider Arabian gulf region, Las Vegas, Hollywood, French Riviera, Amsterdam, Prague, east Asian metropolitan areas or poor parts of eastern Europe, Africa, Latin America and south Asia etc as it's all simply a variation of the commoditisation of a fresh "asset" with sell by date corresponding supply and demand. It's a bit like the casino as the house always wins and the victims continue to do their thing with some choosing to do so to pay university tuition or others to feed their families back in the original homelands or many just thinking a few days on a media video shoot induced by big rewards on a glamorous yacht really comes with no strings attached. Dubai is just the new kid in the block in this oldest game in town. Nothing left to the imagination as it's only as sick as those disturbed minds controlling the purse strings but fortunately for them there is a seemingly unlimited fresh global supply of willing wannabe models! Dubai just provides the current trending backdrop. Nothing new to see or any real revelation! Look again at your nearest massage parlour in any small town!

SamusIsAGirl · 24/05/2021 10:01

Dubai does not have a complete modern sewage system. The Burj Kalifa has a whole bulkhead for storing sewage and there is a chain of those poo-suckers you get at festivals that queue up to empty it.

Not to mention how clean the beaches are some of the time....

GoldenLabbie · 24/05/2021 10:01

Isn’t the side bar of shame on the DM meant to be an advertising platform for these Instagram ‘models’?

Maddox33 · 24/05/2021 09:51

If this porta potty practice is true, then why doesn't the poo troll go to Dubai instead of posting on Mumsnet? Grin

MrsMaizel · 24/05/2021 09:50

@BilboBercow

All of the male influencers are going too. Are they also engaged in prostitution?
Possibly - homosexuality is a huge practice in the Arab community .
CaMePlaitPas · 24/05/2021 09:44

As someone who was in Monaco last summer I can confirm that it hasn't completely all moved to Dubai.

Thewiseoneincognito · 24/05/2021 09:35

You only have to see the types who go there to know its the newest Marbella. I think a lot of the seedy side is hidden in plain sight under the cover of it being in a religious part of the world. Wayne Lineker is opening a new bar there. Says it all really.

PrimeraVez · 24/05/2021 09:28

Another day, yet another Dubai-bashing threat, with the usual crap trotted out.

The Johann Hari piece for the Independent that everyone loves to quote is 9 years old.

I have no vested interest in 'defending' Dubai, but as someone who has lived and worked here both as a single, 20-something woman, and now with my young family, a very sizeable chunk of what you see and read, is simply hyperbole.

Some of you are really showing yourselves up as ignorant, gullible and at worst, racist.

I dread the thought of the ME For fucks sake, really?

Hawkins001 · 24/05/2021 09:27

Did not realise this was a thing

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/05/2021 09:23

I think it is like anywhere in the world, if you want to go looking for certain things you can find them. In that same thought if you want to go Dubai/the Emirates and have a totally family friendly holiday and not come across it you could in the same way that you could in London or Tokyo or where ever.

But yes I do agree that the low grade celebrities/non influencer influencers were in Dubai for ‘gifted’ experiences which amounted to prostitution.

It’s just desperately sad that they seem to be lying to their fans who might be younger about what their life opportunities are rather than them openly saying they are paid for sex and x y z are the dangers etc.

VolcanicEruption · 24/05/2021 09:07

My DD is on the International Teaching circuit and I dread the thought of the M. E. She is also a science teacher and does the sex Ed (gulp)
She also has 2DDs(5&4).

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/05/2021 09:00

Long before there were ‘influencers’ (1970s) I knew of parties in Bahrain to which cabin crew were invited. I knew someone who was given cash and presents just for attending, but it was pretty clear that a lot more cash would be given for extra ‘services’ if anyone was willing. She wasn’t, and declined any more such invitations.

Not long afterwards I met a bloke who’d been staying in a Bahrain hotel on business. There was a girl on her own in the bar who he thought seemed oddly distracted, wondered whether she was all right and started talking to her. She soon burst out with, I’ve just got to tell someone.’ After one such crew party she had agreed to just a night or two with a Bahraini VIP, and had come away with £30k. At the time it was enough to buy a nice house in the SE of the U.K.

Lalliella · 24/05/2021 08:36

There’s a link within that Travelling Jezebel article to an article about the enslavement of migrant workers. Read also Johann Hari’s article for the Independent years ago. That’s worse imo. At least the girls are consenting to what happens to them.

Dubai is a very grim place. We can all do our bit towards stopping these practices by never going there.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 24/05/2021 08:15

however hostesses can earn an awful lot more money than in an ordinary job, meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs, work at their leisure, and part time. That is the attraction.

I’m not sure hostesses is an accurate description if the stuff in those links is remotely true. I don’t think there’s any suggestion these women are being trafficked into it either, although others will be.

MagicSummer · 24/05/2021 08:09

I wish I hadn't opened that link! I had NO idea such disgusting actions took place anywhere. It has really made me sick to the stomach, which is quite unlike me.

GingerScallop · 24/05/2021 08:00

I should not have googled porta potties. I will never unknow it. But frankly, I should be surprised. Was once in a good respectable hotel in Japan. Open the room brochure and among the tourist map was info on such services.

@OldEnoughToBeYourMum Few influencers might go on their own will but am sure many will be tricked into it. And sometimes the press here is complicit. Several times I have seen article about influencers/bloggers going around the world with rich men and paid to party. They hide the ugliness and young girls get caught up. Very sad

FedNlanders · 24/05/2021 07:41

Wtf did I just read

Pongo101 · 24/05/2021 06:59

"meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs"

... and they sure know how to pick em

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