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Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

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debbrianna · 22/05/2021 11:18

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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apalledandshocked · 24/05/2021 13:18

@Picklypickles

Gosh, what an eye-opening thread! I'm now sitting here wondering what my step-cousin The Holy Saint Victoria was REALLY up to in her late teens and early twenties working as a hostess on some rich guys yachts in the south of France, and her granny was soooo proud too when she was busy telling me that I should do whatever Holy Saint Victoria does as she is just the greatest and best at everything and what a shame I can't be more like her. I'm going to enjoy mentioning the contents of this thread to my mum later.
Don't.... for one thing you dont know what her job actually entailed - there is a whole spectrum of experiences from "standing there looking pretty" (similar to bikini clad women selling cars/tech/etc) and putting up with mild sexual harrasmen not exactly empowering or great for feminism but not so bad - all the way through to the really grim porta potty stuff.

For another, even if she was involved in some level of prostitution - I dont think its fair to start trying to "out" her now. Especially as a result of another woman (your granny) unfairly comparing you.

I don't think talking about the realities of OF/Dubai/porn and criticising its normalisation is "women tearing other women down". But when it targets indivudual women it can become that.

Smurfsarethefuture · 24/05/2021 12:59

@queenofarles

There are definitely some celeb actresses etc that I often wonder about who have some graphic materialthat is art house cool. I wonder whether that is an opener for other material (not necessarily with them)

queenofarles · 24/05/2021 12:55

Every year in South of France I spot a model who was famous back in the 90s but not Elle or Naomi famous and every year she is with a new guy , the keep getting older and rounder! it’s actually so sad, she still looks good and has an amazing bod, but to keep the lifestyle she wants, she has no other option but to seek older men.

Smurfsarethefuture · 24/05/2021 12:47

@Picklypickles

ha!

I went to some glam places but was seriously in the nerd crowd and usually working/studying and never saw this stuff (or it went over my head)

Confusedandshaken · 24/05/2021 12:46

@Smurfsarethefuture

But do billionaires not want someone who is going to be part of their ‘respectable’ image? Or did it always happen that way and it’s just the internet has made it harder to hide?
Billionaires will have their 'respectable' wife, probably someone from their own background/culture or an upper class Brit or American who gives them heirs, respectability, prestige and access to social circles they might otherwise hard find hard to mix with. They will also have numerous other 'companions', not necessarily female, who provide other comforts and services.
Picklypickles · 24/05/2021 12:12

Gosh, what an eye-opening thread! I'm now sitting here wondering what my step-cousin The Holy Saint Victoria was REALLY up to in her late teens and early twenties working as a hostess on some rich guys yachts in the south of France, and her granny was soooo proud too when she was busy telling me that I should do whatever Holy Saint Victoria does as she is just the greatest and best at everything and what a shame I can't be more like her. I'm going to enjoy mentioning the contents of this thread to my mum later.

TedImgoingmad · 24/05/2021 12:07

What's Halston? Something to do with the designer?

Smurfsarethefuture · 24/05/2021 11:56

@Evilpea

There’s seems to be a lot of good music there though? I though CF had DJ nights with an indie crowd?

Blimey. I’ve been looking forward to a health and safety approved studio 54 revival after all this lockdown and thought those places would be ok.

SofiaMichelle · 24/05/2021 11:55

@MadameOvary81

www.instagram.com/p/CNj9QTssJ19/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Dubai is a rabbit hole that you really don't want to travel down.

I'm sorry but what is it you're trying to tell us with your cryptic post?

You've attached a link for an Instagram post by a convicted criminal, whose message seems to be 'Google it'?

Confused
Smurfsarethefuture · 24/05/2021 11:53

But do billionaires not want someone who is going to be part of their ‘respectable’ image? Or did it always happen that way and it’s just the internet has made it harder to hide?

Youdoyoutoday · 24/05/2021 11:46

Imagine living with the memory of being shat on by a big fat hairy guy?? What an absolute horror!!

FreyaFolkvangr · 24/05/2021 11:44

I have no vested interest in 'defending' Dubai, but as someone who has lived and worked here both as a single, 20-something woman, and now with my young family, a very sizeable chunk of what you see and read, is simply hyperbole.

It's so easy to live somewhere and not see what's going on for other women though. I don't doubt people live there and have a good experience of it, but it's incredibly naive to think this stuff isn't happening. There are some disgusting men out there - in this country too. It makes me utterly sick. There must be so many women and girls who get caught up in these trips and are way out of their depth but feel ashamed and never tell anyone what's gone on. No doubt they get themselves home and try to get on with their lives.

Alicesweewonders · 24/05/2021 11:36

@queenofarles: Yeah that was before the billionaire, plenty of well known & wealthy enough actresses too.

I guess they can make more money in one night than working weeks/months on a movie.

queenofarles · 24/05/2021 11:29

Miranda is married to a Billionaire Grin, and was a very successful model with a successful skincare brand , highly doubt she needs the money from Dubai.

debbrianna · 24/05/2021 11:29

@MrsMackesy

Linked to this, the current AIBU thread 'Is anyone here on Only Fans?' makes interesting reading.

OnlyFans seems to offer a menu and ordering system of invitees/victims/recruiters of others.

I read a shocking article in the new York Times a while ago about onlyfans being a grooming site for hard core porn. They purposely offer women money and they keep increasing the money and act. After that they offer them the job outside of their webpage.
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RickiTarr · 24/05/2021 11:20

@BilboBercow

All of the male influencers are going too. Are they also engaged in prostitution?
Do you find that hard to believe?
ShirleyPhallus · 24/05/2021 11:20

I thought this was pretty well known. Love islanders have made good money this way!

MadameOvary81 · 24/05/2021 11:17

www.instagram.com/p/CNj9QTssJ19/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Dubai is a rabbit hole that you really don't want to travel down.

MrsMackesy · 24/05/2021 11:16

Linked to this, the current AIBU thread 'Is anyone here on Only Fans?' makes interesting reading.

OnlyFans seems to offer a menu and ordering system of invitees/victims/recruiters of others.

artquejtion · 24/05/2021 11:00

I used to live in Dubai, and it is true there are places where the escort girls hang out. You often see the one lone guy at at table with 2 or 3 girls, usually with tons of plastic surgery, they stand out a mile. As others have said it, it is not only Dubai, go to any big wealthy city and you see it.

I guess Dubai is more shocking and conversation worthy because of the UAE being a muslim country with serious repercussions for immoral behaviour.

TomorrowIsAnotherDae · 24/05/2021 10:58

Great post @ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

Alicesweewonders · 24/05/2021 10:39

Yeah, if you read Blind Gossip it eludes to it a lot, even with the already rich & famous celebrities.

According to their site it's practically Lindsay Lohans job now & it's the only thing that keeps her in the life she's grown accustom to.

Miranda Kerr was the highest paid.

toocold54 · 24/05/2021 10:38

I think it’s just the ‘in’ place to go at the moment. When I was younger it was Ibiza.

SillyBry · 24/05/2021 10:37

My dad worked in the Middle East for 30 years from the late 80s onwards. He would often speak about what a two sided society Dubai is.
The shiny glitzy side they create for the tourists.

And the other side.

A lot of men with more money than they know what to do with living in a society, which was culturally very restricted, but now has exploded into this modern place to attract the West. There are so many despicable things happening behind closed doors. From the "girls" that would hang around the hotel bars to the shanty town that was 2 miles out of town for the servant workers. Hidden homosexuality, bribery, the lot. Sadly, money seems to take prioity over human rights.

Having said that, having spent most of my holidays out there in the 90s and early 00s, I would say it felt like one of the safest places, with the kindest people in the world. My dad's employers would offer for his family to live out there with him, but he was adament we were better back in the UK. My mum joked she couldn't be a "Jumeirah Jane" - but it was a lovely place to visit, but not somewhere to live. Money speaks too much.

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