Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

Ime just reading about it is enough for it to get head space, what does taking part do?

I’m struggling with that, too. I mean, fair enough if it’s your own fetish but eating shit/being shat on for money is something that would be hard to come to terms with.

I wish I hadn’t googled!

It seems unlikely that all of the men partying in those particular circumstances have that particular fetish, more that they just get off on the degradation of women.

The RAF were stationed in Bahrain in 1990 (Gulf war) DH was regularly propostioned by everyone from taxi drivers up. One guy apparently had a brand new Mercedes shipped home, for his ‘services’.
If you were Ginger, you were highly sought after, something to do with a coming Prophet being red headed and pale skinned.

Air crews stayed at the Hilton, where DH was, ( we still have a couple of towels the blondes were never short of Arab men’s company.

Aye Dee scat happens (should be a bumper sticker) but this is scat + defiling western women, to my eye anyway.
If that's part of the scene then awareness is important.
The glossy lifestyle stuff is enticing especially to youngsters, the risks need light.

Ime just reading about it is enough for it to get head space, what does taking part do?

"porta potty party"

As if scat doesn't happen in UK. There's a huge sex industry here we surely don't think it's all vanilla...? UK is a place where everyone can "see" what happens overseas but not under their own noses

Oh goodness I now feel that I will google 'porta potty party' to watch those four seconds. If I don't return you'll know I've fainted.

Later: I haven't looked at any video and don't want to but I found this:
travellingjezebel.com/dubai-porta-potty/

Ugh! However I have heard of such things before, just not in Dubai.

It is harder to hide now.

There's nothing new about any of this, it has always gone on and always will.

*appalledandshocked: Stag party in Amsterdam?
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Or hen party in Amsterdam, I understand the cakes are quite nice there.

Or, just find somewhere close by online - like ordering a pizza envy
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That sounds about my level :-).

Honestly? Yes. That's not to say that some influencers don't engage in prostitution but I think the most reasonable explanation is that Dubai is the new Marbella/Ibiza/fashionable destination. This year it was one of the few places open for business tourism wise and its quite affordable.

Influencers need to do glamorous holidays in order to look aspirational and sell a lifestyle.

I can't believe what I saw on the porta potty party, I clicked the video for 4 seconds my eyeballs are traumatised.
Nothing in the world is worth that.

It's a dangerous place to get into trouble with the law , they are so incredibly vulnerable out there.

lots of celebrities do it too, many models also. A very wealthy client of my husband has paid 2 well known women for their services.

if you see an influencer with the pin drop sign at the side of their bio its usually a sign they're available for paid sex in he country they're visiting .

@PrimeraVez Actually, far from restoring the reputation of Dubai, you are very much part of the problem and among the privileged people that lived on the backs of thousands of migrant workers living in appalling conditions. Just because you chose to ignore all of the massive human rights violations, does not make you a credible and decent person.

Or, just find somewhere close by online - like ordering a pizza

It's not new of course but I agree that because Dubai is a muslim part of the world the hypocrisy seems to make it worse and the terrible human rights record makes it very dangerous.

I lived in Tokyo in my twenties (teaching job) and had a wonderful time, I do really love Japan but it also had a dark side. It's a strangely ancient and yet futuristic country and still very, very sexist!

I partied a lot on the weekends and became friends with some models (Americans and various Europeans/Russians) and it was quickly obvious they were sustaining their modelling careers as escorts.

No judgement from me, we were all adults but I remember the occasional club nights when my model friends would be snorting an absolute ton of cocaine in the bathroom and as naive as I was, I could see that they paying a mental price for their lifestyles. Then the poor Lucy Blackman murder happened and I couldn't pretend anymore that my party friends were just part of a seedy but harmless industry.

@queenofarles

This one?

It’s always about getting the taboo/controversial into conservative spaces. Goes back to Modernism, and a play on format/material.

I remember studying this at a’level

philamuseum.org/collection/object/54149

And seeing it at the NPG? Around 1996?

apalledandshocked the thing is you can make good money out of being an escort but it’s certainly not Flying private jet level kind of money, which many think is the case, there is no way men are paying £70000+Expenses for little unknown models.

Regarding Art, I don’t get explicit art at all, I spent a lot of time looking at Paul McCarthy’s plug sculpture , it certainly made feel 🤢 .
Wonder if whoever buys it has a fetish for or just buys them due to the controversy ?

I didn't know that about Bahrain, Lowland.

I wonder where UK men who want to do those things, flock? I daresay they don't have to flock far here.

Dubai is the new Bahrain, full of prostitution. It is where the men of that region flock to drink, gamble and buy young men and women.

yes @Appalled

There is a pattern to all of these 'talks' on making money from your art, grow your own, etc. There is always a course being sold. It must be the course that makes the money not the 'object'.

And as with the low level influencer trend, there is also crucially an initial fogginess in HOW "succesful" people actually make their money. This is probably because:

1. people are encouraged to overemphasize their success "fake it till you make it" (like MLM)
2. "succesful" content creators make a significant proportion of their income by selling the chance of success to other wannabe "content creators". In MLM this would be the "downstream" and actually represent almost all their profit. In OF this comes from money for encouraging others to sign up, "mentoring" fees, and being paid money to "shout out" less succesful/established creators. I accept that this might represent a much smaller proportion of their income than in traditional MLMs - bit since no-one making money from OF wants to be open about how much they make from what there is no way to know either way.
3. There is (probably well founded) suspicion that many making considerable money arent making it from tasteful foot photos or "lingerie but but you cant see their face". Most of the time the content has to be more extreme than that or, and this is where the cross over with Dubai comes in, involve your standard prostitution.

No shame on women who get drawn into that/need to do it. But realistically women have always been able to sell/use their bodies and sexuality (or have it sold for them). The "oldest profession" was the only profession open to women for much of history. It has never been something that led to empowerment or even a good life for the vast majority. The house always wins. So why anyone would think it would be different now is beyond me.

Not sure about statement at 12:59 actually. I shouldn't be making suppositions about people I don't know.

I meant that I wonder if some art house stuff is a gateway into other stuff when I had previously always thought it was the other way round - art house stuff expressed an emotion and a separate industry exploied that and sexualised it.

But knowing my naivety, I think I better stand on the side of caution.

And it's an MLM...

Amazing how many people don't understand what 'MLM' is, despite the words that constitute the acronym describing it quite clearly.

debbrianna

I read a shocking article in the new York Times a while ago about onlyfans being a grooming site for hard core porn. They purposely offer women money and they keep increasing the money and act. After that they offer them the job outside of their webpage.

And it's an MLM. You derive income from encouraging your friends to start accounts!