To think that a lot of genuinely beautiful people ruin themselves with plastic surgery etc?

I blame reality TV for so much of this trashiness. I wish our young girls weren't subjected to it.

Lots of people have looked better as in standard of what is considered good looking after a little surgery

Michelle Keeghan
Marilyn Monroe
Ryan Gosling
Tom Cruise
Michael Jackson
Catherine Zeta Jones

The look is neater

Then many go too far
Obviously Michael Jackson

Priscilla Presley. Was so beautiful when she was younger . .. and now . . . . .ek.
Has Nigella had any surgery I wonder? if she has its been done very well

I saw Suzi Perry on Richard Osman's House of Games the other week. I hadn't seen her on TV for some time and thought, ooh, bit puffy and smooth, must have had work done. She's about 50 I think.

Thing is, by the end of the week I'd got used to the change in her face and was thinking she looked fine!

You've got to remember that in Hollywood it is more acceptable to look like you've had obvious work done, than just to age (for women). I also imagine it is very difficult to see your youthful looks go when they have been the main, if not only, thing that people note about you, and the reason for your success in life.

As an aside, I don't believe there are any women celebs over 40 who havent had anything one. It is completely the culture in that world.

Annnnd-- you can only tell when you can tell. Otherwise, people just look good.

I think @brycechard revived this zombie thread to promote whatever weird vagina treatment is linked

Must not click on link to find out what a vagina facial is...must not click...

Oops, didn’t realise this was an old thread!

I felt incredibly sad hearing the news of Tawney Kitean’s death back in May (I think) but also the fact that this once incredibly beautiful (inside and out judging by the stories of her) had felt the need to have plastic surgery, making her look completely different to how she once looked.

Definitely. Once they've plenty of cash to start changing and filling it is slippy slopes.

I did consider new micro-blading eyebrows though they look odd on so many people they take over the face like snakes.

So many beautiful woman have ruined their face.
I saw a good meme when you're old you either look old or crazy, nothing turns back time.

Pamela Anderson looks great in the recent photos of her. She looks her age with a bit of obvious work but has kept some wrinkles.

I always thought Lulu looked amazing for her age but even she had gone too far last time I saw her

Yeah but she has looked "amazing for her age" for about twenty years now. It's gotta end sometime.

Following the sad death of Terry Jones two days ago the BBC showed the Alan Yentob 'Imagine' documentary, filmed in 2014, about the Monty Python reunion at the O2. They were all in their early 70's. Eric Idol, who is living in Hollywood these days and therefore no doubt surrounded by the culture of youth, looked very nipped and tucked, and basically just a bit odd, Michael Palin on the other hand was a very attractive 71 year old. It's not just women that succumb to the knife. George Clooney had his eyes done and made no secret of it, Tom Cruise has obviously had work and Simon Cowell looks like Frankenstein's monster these days. I always thought Lulu looked amazing for her age but even she had gone too far last time I saw her as a talking head on something or other and dear God Helen Hunt was unrecognisable in the recent World on Fire.

It was Brad Pitt who stood out to me at the SAG awards, he looked so odd. It's sad that women have felt this pressure for so long and annoying that there was that double standard but it's sad that men are now starting to feel the need too

Gosh that picture of Michelle Keegan upthread Naturally she wasprobably one of the most beautiful young women on tv and not just because of her face but her smile is incredible, she can really act and I imagine she has an absolutely gorgeous personality to match. She would have stood out in any room and now she would just blend in.

It's really sad, especially as mum to a daughter.

Guys get it too, to a lesser extent. I read somewhere that Chris Evans (Captain America) said his agents had pressured him to use Rogaine (or similar).

And most of the Marvel guys have to be using steroids to bulk up that much.

There was a picture on Instagram of Courtney Cox, Jennifer Aniston and Lisa kudrow recently. Lisa is the only one who has aged naturally but I bet she gets slagged off online for looking old

I saw that picture and I thought Lisa looked completely lovely and normal. The other two looked weird. I am such a huge Friends fan that I find it almost upsetting (tad dramatic I know) to see Courtney Cox as she is now because she looks like a different person. Jennifer Aniston looked amazing until the last couple of years when she has had a lot of procedures and now looks puffy and, if anything, a bit older than her actually age.

It’s bonkers!!

(Asking for a friend)

Bathroom - could you hazard a guess as to which surgeon HM used?

I think we are starting to lose sight of what normal aging looks like too. People's face will change as they age but I'm often looking at celebs in their early 50s wondering if they are looking older or just had bad plastic surgery!

There was a picture on Instagram of Courtney Cox, Jennifer Aniston and Lisa kudrow recently. Lisa is the only one who has aged naturally but I bet she gets slagged off online for looking old.

DoC definitely has fillers or fat transfer - women don't get skinnier and keep their faces round IMO. But quite subtle (for the moment)

That's a little unfair. She had the surgery in the throws of depression, to the point of a suicide attempt brought on by endless hatred towards her because of her looks. She didn't even know she was going to make a film at some point in the future.

She didn't have the surgery so she could make a doc and say 'hey kids lets all have a tonne of surgery to beat the bullies'. It was only during some therapy in the documentary that she began to even make peace with pre-surgery Jesy. @angelomysterioso clearly women are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

1. Jessy (? Sp) from Little Mix having extensive surgery then moaning that it wasn’t fair that her looks had been picked on and we should all accept our looks etc. etc. She even made a TV programme about it, I think. Do as I say, not as I do, eh? Way to give a healthy message to your fans, most of whom are under ten.

I thought that too.

The one I’m most astonished by is Chloe Ferry from Geordie Shore- I just keep thinking such a dramatic transformation must result in some sort of identity crisis?!