To think that a lot of genuinely beautiful people ruin themselves with plastic surgery etc?

Some of them look bizarre, some look awful, some look OK, but they NEVER look younger (well, no more than 4-5 years younger) than their age.

Do you have a link to the CZJ pics @BeTheRabbit ?

I agree with you, OP

Before Christmas I was channel hopping and came across the American National Country Music Awards - during which they kept scanning the audience, as they tend to do at these star studded entertainment business awards.
There were a whole heap of seriously weirdly deformed faces there. Quite grotesque, and sadly all over the audience.

If you surround yourself with other people like you though, you get a skewed view of what is 'normal' - bit like some of the young girls with orange skin and charcoaled on thick lines where their eyebrows should be.

Its usually the really famous beautiful women who succumb to fillers botox etc
It must be hard to watch their beauty fade as they age but better to look normal I think

I think we have to assume that pretty much every celebrity over 35 we know the face if will have had some sort of 'work'.

The variation is what look they go for; super plastic and a bit obvious like sharon Osbourne, but smooth and glowing; or a subtler 'just a few years off' look like helen Mirren.

It’s sad that society makes them feel like they need it. I guess if you’ve spent the whole of your life being told you’re incredibly beautiful it must sting when the compliments stop. Combined with hollywood telling you you’re too old for work when you’re barely middle aged.

It is really sad though. And god knows what the younger generation will be like, they’re already drawing on big lips and eyebrows and tattooing on make up before they’re 20.

Theres a few people that make me want to weep with what they've done to their faces.
Katie Price was absolutely beautiful several surgeries ago. Charlotte Crosby has destroyed herself. Farrah Abrahams from Teen Mom looks like a caricature.
I genuinely don't understand how they thought they needed the work.

Can't believe this ad was on this thread 😂😂

I think natural beautiful people often grow up being complemented/compared/put down etc... they tend to concentrate on their looks and inevitably their "flaws"....looks are a bigger deal to these people..

Meg Ryan and Courtenay Cox both ruined their faces with filler. They both looked like the kind of beauties who would have naturally aged well, too.

I think they all look ok for their age though regardless of surgery. The only one I felt “ oh dear” about was Jennifer Anniston. She looks Square and hard now. I think a slightly softer jowly Jen would have looked good.

J-Lo looks incredible. I’d love to know what she’s had done to maintain a taut jawline at 50.

Actually, I've just looked at some of the photos and I think CZJ looks remarkably like Kris Jenner in the non-close ups. She (CZJ) had really aged herself close up, unfortunately, and she's only 50!

One thing I have noticed on the school run is it seems to be the less affluent mums who have big lips and big eyebrows. Our school is a pretty mixed intake from 2 parent working professionals who live on the naice estate and then the generally 1 parent families who tend to have less well paid jobs. The ones who seem to turn up with lips and brows and fake tans and hair extensions tend to be the less well. And usually younger. And I do judge a bit when they can't afford day trips or holidays but seem to be in the beauticians every other week having expensive stuff done.

I've been a single parent struggling to make ends meet and the last thing I spent money on was myself. I did wear make up but only the very basics and was all cheap and cheerful stuff. And coloured my own haor and had it cut at the hair dressing college and that felt frivolous but I did need to look OK for work.

I just think there are better things to spend your limited money on than fillers and nails.

I hate the current trend for those puffed-up lips and pouting in selfies. If you flick through any magazine it's hard to tell some young women apart now.

I always feel sad when I see Kylie Minogue - she doesn't look like herself anymore.

Victoria Principal. Married a plastic surgeon who I think liked to practise on her face I watched the original Dallas a few years ago and the change mutation over the seasons was shocking.

Yes it seems that way!

It’s sad lip fillers are currently a trend with young girls. Why put that crap in to your lip?

Well, we only notice the ones that go wrong, so there are probably lots of people out there with subtly-done Botox or fillers that look great. But I agree there are lots of examples of celebrities who have that ‘overdone’ look, and it does seem really sad.

Yes! So many girls in their early 20s having all sorts of shit injected into their faces just to look like.clones of each other!

I suspect Helen Mirren has, she's got a very good jawline. But whoever did it did a bloody good job, and she's sensibly steered clear of the overfilled, over Botoxed look.

Charlotte Crosby is a classic example of bad surgery.

She was so naturally pretty and didn't even need surgery at all as she's so young, but what ever she has done to her face I'm not sure but it looks so stretched and unnatural.

If proof were needed look at Honor Blackman and Helen Mirren. Don't think they've had any work done and my word, they look amazing.

You honestly believe neither of them have had any work done?!

I do wish ladies would leave themselves alone.

Renee Zellweger was so gorgeous in Empire Records. Now, she looks ill.

Sharon Osbourne is about the only one who's not ruined herself.

If proof were needed look at Honor Blackman and Helen Mirren. Don't think they've had any work done and my word, they look amazing.

I really think before any non-medical plastic surgery the person should have to undergo fairly rigorous mental health screenings.

There used to be a show called the hills, one of the people (heidi) had extensive surgery to please her abusive partner. She was only in her twenties and very very vulnerable.

Simon Cowell on the Barclay card ad looks awful all swollen it looks like he has had an allergic reaction