To think that a lot of genuinely beautiful people ruin themselves with plastic surgery etc?

What I thought was weird (not quite on topic because neither of these women are famous beauties, but I hope relevant):

1. Jessy (? Sp) from Little Mix having extensive surgery then moaning that it wasn’t fair that her looks had been picked on and we should all accept our looks etc. etc. She even made a TV programme about it, I think. Do as I say, not as I do, eh? Way to give a healthy message to your fans, most of whom are under ten.

1. Charlotte Crosby having a self-indulgent meltdown when Janet Street-Porter asked her, quite reasonably, whether she thought that having major surgery on her face was setting a good example to young women.

If you’re going to puff up your lips, shove filler into your face, etc., do it: it’s no skin off my nose, but don’t cloak it in this self-pitying “boo hoo the haterz made me do it and don’t you dare do anything other than congratulate me for mutilating my face” rubbish. Because then you look stupid as well as less attractive than you used to be with your real face.

Just left a job where there was a woman there, late 30s, apparently she is into all her beauty, she has had boob jobs, lip fillers, the silly eyebrows, all she talked about was her looks and beauty treatments, what a bore! She was so vain and unattractive. I have never met anyone like that before, and hope never to again. !

Just the tennis Langs. We get a bit sidetracked sometimes

CZJ was one of the most beautiful women ever - she's absolutely spectacular looking in Darling Buds of May.

I’ve just watched the video of CZJ, and sure she looks a bit tweaked, but not nearly as extreme as some people are indicating.

Isn’t she famously a depression sufferer? I think that combined with Hollywood life is going to make someone far more prone to going down the plastic surgery route in an effort to obtain “contentment”.

I want to know what thread you were on. It sounds good

Maybe if I got fillers in it they would act as a cushion?

Oops wrong thread

According to Incredible India "the more still you are the further you can go". My bum is getting numb from sitting still for so long

I think the obsession with appearance is extremely sad. However, it's very difficult to know where to draw the line. We all have different views of what is reasonable and what isn't. And we're not always consistent.

Personally, I could never contemplate plastic surgery or Botox. However, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have highlights in my hair to help hide the grey and to remove the hair on my chin and upper lip (I'm in my late 50s).

I would hate my daughters (early 20s) to have plastic surgery to address any perceived imperfections, but I willingly paid for them to have orthodontist treatment in their teens to correct their very slightly crooked teeth.

NB: surgery for medical reasons eg following accidents or to address disfigurements such as cleft palates is another matter entirely. I have no problem with any of that.

6 pages of women bashing other women for their looks.
Where?

Kew it would be about Catherine and you are right. She used to be stunning, absolutely beautiful and now look at her. She would have aged well as well no doubt, she didnt need plastic surgery. Such a shame she thought she needed it.

It’s six pages of women saying other women are far more beautiful before they have surgery.

It’s bashing cosmetic surgery, society and media that put so much pressure on women they feel they have to do this to themselves.

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6 pages of women bashing other women for their looks. That'd be why

It’s six pages of women saying other women are far more beautiful before they have surgery.

It’s bashing cosmetic surgery, society and media that put so much pressure on women they feel they have to do this to themselves.

6 pages of women bashing other women for their looks. That'd be why.

But the thread's not bashing women for their looks. The opposite really, it's saying women shouldn't feel under pressure to change themselves by surgeries and injectables and all of that when they looked great in the first place.

It always looks grotesque. It always looks obvious that work has been done on someone's face. It sticks out like a sore thumb and never looks remotely natural. Giant lips look simply ridiculous.

Why the hell do people do it to themselves??

DoC has botox definitely

Sigh. 'Of' Cambridge, obviously.

I also think the Duchess is Cambridge has had work done (although I think she looks amazing). Subtly over the years, but if you look at pictures of her around just before they got engaged her face looks quite different. Some of that is weight loss, she's far slighter these days but when when she has some pregnancy weight on her face seems noticeably different from before. I'm not quite sure how though, which is why I think it's probably very subtle and a skilled surgeon! Slight change to her nose maybe?

I know a woman who I used to work with, we're linked on Facebook. She's was absolutely stunning and she's only 25. I saw a picture of her on FB the other day and I was shocked at her face. Puffy cheeks, huge lips and something different about her eyes, they look a bit feline.

She's still pretty, but she looks distorted. There wasn't a wrinkle on her, I've no idea why she felt the need to do that to herself.

"Why do women have plastic surgery blah blah"

6 pages of women bashing other women for their looks. That'd be why.

Also oddly many women who have work in their 20s end up actually looking a lot older I think... I makes it look like they were older trying to look young so it has the reverse effect

What's strange with Catherine Zeta Jones is she is with a man so much older who obviously has aged a lot whereas now she is frozen in time!

I think when you've spent your life being told how beautiful you are it must be terrifying losing that. Men are told they look better as they age and can have careers where they are still "heart throbs" with grey hair like Sean connery. Very rarely does this happen for women.

I suppose the women who have great plastic surgery we don't notice... That's the point right they just look amazing?

I think well done plastic surgery is probably much less obvious than botox or fillers. That frozen rigid look with the smooth forehead and fillers between nose and mouth is ubiquitous these days.