I’m so fed up with all this vegan wankery

No other animal causes so much destruction to the planet we live on. 90% of farmed animals are raised intensively. There is nothing natural about it at all. Nothing.

and Dairy is the worst. What is natural about drinking the breast milk of another species - into adulthood? We don’t need human breast milk after the age of around 12 months. Why on earth would we consume an entirely different species’.

we have been conned by the big Ag and Milk industry. And it comes at a huge cost to our own health and that of the planet.

So dream on that it’s natural. It absolutely isn’t.

Our huge brains should make us known better, not behave worse. Factory farming is barbaric and unnecessary.

Substitutes don’t have the taste or texture of meat. I accidentally bought some vegan bacon once, it was lightly flavoured cardboard.

Totally understand not wanting to eat animals, don’t understand eating substitutes that taste like rubbish. I think you have to accept that if you don’t want to eat animals, you will not be eating food that has the taste or texture of meat. Even the Linda McCartney vegetarian stuff that can taste ok does not taste like meat.

Ruling out human behaviours, Every single animal. will be eaten by another animal ( usually alive) or die of disease or lack of food or water.
We aren’t the problem.

😆 quite!

It isnt hard to not eat something. Or if it is, I must be in need of recognition as I've managed it for the past 25 years nearly.

This aged well 😂

@stuffedpeppers Unfortunately it's difficult to be moderately abusive. The very nature of animal farming is cruel.

I'm sorry you find it difficult to eat out. Maybe as the vegan lifestyle grows there will be more options for Whole Food Plant Based eating (no sugar, oil, etc) which would be great for you I imagine.

As a Type 1 diabetic since not long after birth - I would far rather go out and be able to eat a meal and that includes mains and started which has not had a liberal dose of sugar added into it - think pasta sauces etc.

I would also like all fecking organic vegan soft drinks to be removed from existence because they are loaded with sugar and I am now back circa the 1980s to drink water as my soft drink alternative. No fruit juice is not sugar free and 150 mls of fruit juice is the equivalent to me eating a sandwich - which fills me up more.

All bloody diet drinks are gone if I want to drink chemicals then I can have the bloody choice.

Everything in moderation please.

i did not get a choice, mine was made for me. Would love a day to be "normal" like all vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians etc have.

@JavaQ Virtue signalling is repellant
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Not as repellent as animal abuse.

And if you eat sentient animals you are guilty of the most profound cruelty. No two-ways about it.

I do think fake meat is making it a bit lazy, I love the greggs sausage roll but I would love to see more chickpea and sweet potato stews, bean burgers and the colourful foods in restaurants rather than beyond burger and chips. Plus you get people deliberately putting cow milk in stuff, you order soy, you get cow, I get issues with my stomach.

How do you know if someone is a vegan? Oh, they'll tell you. 😆

I agree, OP. Veganism is great, but not the people jumping on the bandwagon and filling Instagram with photos of avocados. I'm not vegan, but I don't make sure everyone around me knows it. So why do they?

Plus they always look so ill.

Virtue signalling is repellant.

Does anybody think that the farming methods we use to obtain meat/dairy are not cruel?

Meat

My vegan friend told me it was wrong to eat mear under any circumstances...i duly told her that if i was utterly starving i would happily hunt for meat to survive if there was little other food.

Food even

Baby eater ffs????? Look...i used to be a vegan and i love vegan doid but i had ro stop as i became fanatical .
Before the advent of intensive farming we probably would hunt and eat baby animals as they are easier to catch...not so much meat though. I dont think eating animals is morally wrong per say...the way they are farmed is though.
We are hunters at heart....it is in our nature but we eat far roo much meat. i am glad we have vegan oprions to help the planet.

Capitalism - that all this shit is about. The almighty dollar

I don’t get meat eaters getting ‘offended’ by vegan options on menus.



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@MaxNormal what the health I'm sure was just a starting point which it was for me, since then "how not to die" book hands down sorts out any quibbles about what we should be eating for health. My kids have been vegan since birth. 8years and 6years. You couldn't pick them out from their friends in terms of health and intelligence, they get everything they need and a hell of a lot more.

@mainecoonmum What the health is such a flimsy propaganda piece, I can't believe you are forcing your children to eat a diet they don't want, on the basis of watching that.

Babies yes.

As a parent to two coeliacs it annoys me that for people who chose to eat a certain way are catered for much more easily than those with an actual medical condition.