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What to do - 70yo dad irresponsible with money

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wanderingwillows · Yesterday 09:48

My dad has always been terrible with money (large part of the reason my mum divorced him), got himself into debt etc.
He is now 70, retired, income around £1400 a month which includes his state pension. No mortgage or car to pay but somehow he tells me he has no money day-to-day once his usual direct debits go out. I know he has an expensive (£100) gym subscription and I suspect he buys wine from Laithwaites, fancy coffee etc. He is not good at budgeting or going for basics.
The other thing to note is he recently inherited approx £80k but has seemingly ‘blown it’ (IMO) on a new staircase for his home (£15k!!!), bits for the garden, he did get solar panels… against my advice.
He is now struggling and having spent all that inheritance tells me he really needs an extra couple of hundred a month. The question is - do I help him? I could stretch to that but feel like he hasn’t exhausted his options first - of being more careful, examining his outgoings etc.
I do feel sorry for him because he’s never had much money or luxuries but recently HAS had the opportunity to become financially secure with that inheritance and has frittered it away.

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ShanghaiDiva · Today 12:06

i would help by going through his income and expenses and looking at where savings could be made- assuming he would accept this help, He could get a job. Many of the invigilators I know are 70 plus so that could be an option,

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · Today 12:10

Are you going to inherit his property OP?

Was / is he a good dad?

Is £200 a lot of money to you?

These things would influence me.

I agree about help with budgeting but as regards the cash if the answer is yes to my first two questions and no to my third question then personally I would help him but politely make clear that he needed to work within that amount in future.

PermanentTemporary · Today 12:11

Speaking as someone who had a dad like this but worse - don’t go near it. And don’t rush round with spreadsheets to fix things. Don’t you think your mum and others will have tried?

My dad ended up both embroiled with scammers and embezzling money from others.

Do what works for you; take him out to coffee/lunch maybe, buy him a coffee subscription or a sports club membership or whatever would be nice for him for Christmas. Be a good daughter to him. But the most I would do for him financially would be to give him the Step Change number.

SillyG · Today 12:33

He has had money £80k!!

No, i wouldn't help him.

AIiswatchingyou · Today 12:40

Don't waste your time or money. He'll take your money and ignore any good advice because he probably thinks he knows best.

He's likely to spend himself deep into debt, leaving behind nothing but trouble.

If he's got to this age without learning his lesson, why do you think he would change now.

latetothefisting · Today 13:25

I definitely wouldn't help with money. Advice, etc. fine. If you want to get him a top up shop occasionally or whatever, go for it.

He could live another 10, 20 years. £200 a month would add up to nearly £50k of him throwing away on crap that you could spend on your own house/kids/retirement.

Pinkissmart · Today 14:55

I would help him with budgeting/ budgeting app.

I would have thought solar panels are a good idea, if they are lowing his electric bills / heating.

anyolddinosaur · Today 16:15

If you advised him not to get solar panels then I'm not surprised he doesnt listen to your advice. You could have checked he was getting a battery with them.

If you sit down with him and go through his expenses then maybe you will understand why he is struggling and maybe he'll think twice about things like a gym sub.

No point in giving money to someone who is bad at managing it unless you have to or they will be homeless.

Lastqueenofscotland2 · Today 16:19

I’d help him with budgeting but not with money. If he’s a spender he’ll find a way to spend that extra £1-200 and need more.

He could live for 20 years, before inflation that could easily be the thick end of £50k…

Crikeyalmighty · Today 16:58

Nah - tell him to get an equity release scheme where he can draw down on in dribscand drabs - ( there are lots) up to a predetermined limit - as he’s not old it will be about 35% of value of his house. Should easily give him a few hundred a month extra if he can reign himself in and take on regular amounts- if he can’t then it’s not your problem

Bjorkdidit · Today 17:00

Pinkissmart · Today 14:55

I would help him with budgeting/ budgeting app.

I would have thought solar panels are a good idea, if they are lowing his electric bills / heating.

But would he recoup the investment in his lifetime? If he's not running electric heating, cooking and laundry for a family or heating his home with electricity, perhaps not. Not everyone's property is suitable either.

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