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Cervix-havers and birthing people: record of organisations replacing the word "woman"

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EssenceOfDittany Thu 11-Feb-21 00:43:39

Just as with the "Have you ever ... ?" thread, which has become a brilliant resource to show anyone doubting the relevance of sex, I'd like to gather a list of organisations that have replaced the word "woman" with some reference to a female body part or bodily function.

I'm discovering that a lot of my woke-leaning (but relatively critically thinking) peers are simply unaware of what's been going on, and that part of the key to getting them on board is having enough evidence that they can't dismiss it with "but that's just an isolated case". This seems a great place to crowd-source that evidence.

Apologies if there's already a thread like this — do link it here. Otherwise, please share any examples you've come across!

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StillAWoman2 Thu 11-Feb-21 13:15:40

Did a longer reply to this before the thread disappeared this morning glad to see it’s been reinstated.

The more public examples were Cancer Research, NHS and HSE (Irelands health service) and other cervical cancer charities all removing the words women, woman, female from their material. Interestingly after many complaints and news paper articles in the likes of the Mail they have quietly updated their material to say women and trans men

Shows complaining is worth it even if they are foul to people who do complain at the time.

StillAWoman2 Thu 11-Feb-21 13:18:34

The Women’s March

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6614821/Womens-March-refers-female-MPs-menstruators-Twitter.html

NancyDrawed Thu 11-Feb-21 13:26:42

The NHS

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4160140-NHS-8-out-of-10-people-under-40-will-get-pregnant-within-a-year

OldCrone Thu 11-Feb-21 13:46:10

Cervical Screening Wales

phw.nhs.wales/services-and-teams/cervical-screening-wales/

Individuals with a cervix aged between 25 and 64 are able to have cervical screening in Wales.

gardenbird48 Thu 11-Feb-21 13:52:49

An excellent idea.

Macmillan cancer charity ‘people’ get cervical cancer but ‘men’ get penile and prostate cancer.

Dancingrandomly Thu 11-Feb-21 13:59:30

As mentioned above Cervical check (run by the HSE, Ireland"s health service) used "people with a cervix". After a lot of complaints, and very reluctantly, they moved to women and transmen.

Oddly, bthe same health service only uses the word "man" in its Prostate Cancer information hmm

FannyCann Thu 11-Feb-21 14:01:15

How depressing. Macmillan are such a good charity to support. They should be ashamed of this.
I have regular dealings with a lovely young woman whose treatment for cervical cancer basically trashed her entire pelvis. She's cured of cancer but her body is a wreck. I feel so sad for her. The last thing she needs is to be told she's not a woman, and isn't a mother to her children.

StillAWoman2 Thu 11-Feb-21 15:47:26

Very depressing about Macmillan, it’s a very worthwhile charity I’d very much like to continue to support but every time I go to donate I struggle to get past them erasing women when they are at their most vulnerable.

Other organisations that erase women are many (all?) of the period poverty charities like Bloody Good Period www.bloodygoodperiod.com/ their website is better written so it’s not as clumsy as the nhs but no women there

Twizbe Thu 11-Feb-21 16:00:24

A local hypnobirthing teacher has just posted a Facebook advert addressing 'pregnancy people' ...

RoobyToosday Thu 11-Feb-21 16:23:22

AIMS Ireland (Association for Improvements in the Maternity Services).

For example: "AIMS Ireland welcomes people who have had third and/or fourth degree lacerations to participate in this survey."

For example: Using TERF twitter.com/AIMSIreland/status/1310160153661108224

SophocIestheFox Thu 11-Feb-21 16:34:51

Here’s my collection, part one...

Number one, from a blog is my favourite “will affect uterus havers as well as women”. Wut?

SophocIestheFox Thu 11-Feb-21 16:35:58

Part two...

MaudTheInvincible Thu 11-Feb-21 16:53:12

https://beajaspert.substack.com/p/lets-form-an-alliance?fbclid=IwAR1bRvucQ_5acmxoddcnbiJdMj9ntD2weTGimxVDyrQguqN9jdCLHFAd774

I’ve recently noticed an interesting connection between disparate groups who face entrenched, systemic discrimination and violence on account of particular anatomical characteristics, and wondered whether there might be some benefit in forming an alliance between these groups in order to more effectively advocate and campaign for their rights?

Love the sharp wit with which women are able to meet this assault on their language. It seems to me to be in stark contrast to the feeble-minded, humourless whining beloved of the authoritarians promulgating this shite.

SophocIestheFox Thu 11-Feb-21 17:15:49

It’s an embarrassment of riches when it comes to the word “menstruator”.

Who are these “people who bleed”, Libby cup, and why are they bleeding? Are they just really prone to paper cuts or something?

Oh, I see, they’re menstruators. Thank you for clearing that up.

SophocIestheFox Thu 11-Feb-21 17:19:48

Nice try, Ladybox, but you’ve undermined yourself there by missing the reference to “feminine” hygiene products. Oops, off to the gulag with you!

And here’s the “menstrual manifesto”, working towards gender equity by being unable to mention which sex gets periods. Bravo.

And last up, here’s a piece of research looking at inequalities in the work place caused by menstruation that gets through the whole abstract without using the word woman once. A masterpiece.

StillAWoman2 Thu 11-Feb-21 17:26:15

With thanks to Owbist who posted this on another thread there’s a great collection in here

beajaspert.substack.com/p/lets-form-an-alliance?fbclid=IwAR3SR5cbXqoHNojNUuLpKl_peDZqDmQTERd7vaS0XM_zaqMuVmva7bamNu4

StillAWoman2 Thu 11-Feb-21 17:27:21

Cross posted, but worth reading twice grin

FannyCann Thu 11-Feb-21 17:29:45

Gift a Lady Box to the special Menstruator in your life.

Anyone would think it was a valentine's gift or at least a birthday present.
I suppose at least they give us a clue and specify it is for a menstruator....without that I might have thought it was some sort of sports underwear to protect the lady dick of a person playing on the women's cricket team. hmm

Well I won't be sending one to my very special daughter, who is a woman who has rotten periods.

OwBist Thu 11-Feb-21 17:37:56

Glad that the blog is being seen, by whomever posts. smile. I am not the author, just thought it was a good read.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud Thu 11-Feb-21 18:22:37

This is a good one, sharing as it's one I'd be happy to be replicated. It's from public health England this week re: invitation for cervical cancer screening. They include the words "women and people with a cervix", and note that transmen who are female should be called automatically by their GPs and that if they have changed their markers to "male" that they need to get in contact to arrange their smears. Over the page it has a diagram of "the female reproductive system", noting where the cervix is- so thank you to whoever is working in public health England on this!

Ereshkigalangcleg Thu 11-Feb-21 19:32:27

Number one, from a blog is my favourite “will affect uterus havers as well as women”. Wut?

"Black uterus-havers" is on a par with "black birthing bodies" confused

NiceGerbil Thu 11-Feb-21 19:42:49

People who bleed need plasters or similar I'd have thought!

weatherwarning Thu 11-Feb-21 20:15:57

The body shop does not feature the word Woman or Women on its website. It does use the word men though.

FannyCann Thu 11-Feb-21 20:40:56

The Government!

legislation.gov.uk

Civil Partnerships, Marriages and Deaths (Registration etc) Act 2019

Section 3 (2)

3
Report on registration of pregnancy loss
(1)
The Secretary of State must make arrangements for the preparation of a report on whether, and if so how, the law ought to be changed to require or permit the registration of pregnancy losses which cannot be registered as still-births under the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953.
(2)
For the purposes of this section, a pregnancy loss occurs when a person's pregnancy ends and, after being parted from the person, the foetus does not breathe or show any other sign of life.

That's right. A pregnancy loss occurs when a person's pregnancy ends and, after being parted from the person, the foetus does not breathe or show any other sign of life.

A PERSON's pregnancy ends.

I have never had a miscarriage or a still birth, but to see it described like this would be so upsetting.

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