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GCSciFiFan Thu 01-Aug-19 12:47:32

Any other GC fans going to Worldcon in Dublin? There’s already things I’ve seen on the schedule that make me want to stand outside in my AHF t-shirt but not brave enough to do it alone!

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GCSciFiFan Thu 01-Aug-19 12:47:58

Btw it’s a name change...been around here for years!

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Juells Thu 01-Aug-19 14:21:20

What does AHF stand for?

Doyoumind Thu 01-Aug-19 14:22:14

It stands for woman!

Juells Thu 01-Aug-19 14:22:38

Posted too soon. Didn't know it was on. AFAICR Robin Hobb was meant to be attending it, but had to cancel sad I'd have gone if she was there just to gawk admiringly at her grin

Juells Thu 01-Aug-19 14:23:31

It stands for woman!

Oops just worked it out.

MadamBatty Thu 01-Aug-19 14:35:14

I’ll stand outside with you

Michelleoftheresistance Thu 01-Aug-19 14:38:29

Ooooh Robin Hobb!

RosesAndRaindrops Thu 01-Aug-19 15:09:30

The sci fi convention?
Why is a sci fi convention a place to all gather with your adult human female t-shirts?
Everyone can go to sci fi conventions, people from all walks of life love them!
Wish I was closer, love a good one and that looks huge..

RosesAndRaindrops Thu 01-Aug-19 15:13:34

Or is it cosplay you're objecting to as you've seen pictures?
There's always some awesome cosplayers at conventions, sometimes females wearing male costumes (I know someone who does Dr Who and is female, looks awesome as Matt Smith)
or the other way round where males cosplay characters.

GCSciFiFan Thu 01-Aug-19 16:12:09

There seems to be an emphasis this time on queer/non binary/trans writing issues...cosplay doesn’t bother me at all because it’s dressing up!

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GCSciFiFan Sat 17-Aug-19 17:41:17

Update: I managed 3 days with my lanyard before I was threatened with expulsion for wearing it!!! Thankfully there’s nothing I want to do tomorrow so I don’t need to go back....

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Ereshkigal Sat 17-Aug-19 18:04:48


Gcscififan Sat 17-Aug-19 18:10:15

Surprised I made it that long...I was playing buzzword bingo for a while in some of the talks...anything not about science mentioned trans within about 10 talk was about what to do if your favourite author has problematic views and jk Rowling was mentioned as being unreadable because she’s openly transphobic! This was said by one of the panellists as I was actually on the front row with lanyard visible!

Ereshkigal Sat 17-Aug-19 18:15:58

LOL grin

Ereshkigal Sat 17-Aug-19 18:16:58

An AHF lanyard? I didn't know there was such a thing, excited to know this!

AlwaysComingHome Sat 17-Aug-19 18:17:18

Why is a sci fi convention a place to all gather with your adult human female t-shirts?

SF fandom was the first place to fall to TRAs.

Gcscififan Sat 17-Aug-19 18:21:58

And boy has it fallen!

Lanyard from here

I’m just annoyed I forgot my ahf stickers - I would have liked to stick them over all the notices in the loos about how we must allow anyone in who feels they belong there....

Hulo Sat 17-Aug-19 19:32:16

Hey, I'm here rolling my eyes at the pronoun stickers. I have noted that the majority aren't wearing them but a significant minority are

Hulo Sat 17-Aug-19 19:34:41

Oh yeah, I avoided the JK Rowling panel...a panel discussing 'problematic faves'

Steering clear of anything relating to diversity or identity politics too

Gcscififan Sat 17-Aug-19 22:28:03

Hadn’t even thought of jkr as problematic...obv I’m not woke enough! I haven’t been going to diversity etc panels...the regency fantasy and dragons became a panel about how great it is to be able to include lesbians/trans in fantasy, obv problematic faves bought it up, food in fantasy did too seems to be really important for all authors (fantasy) to show how relevant they are by saying how fab it is to include lgbtqibollox in all their writing! Meanwhile the lovely young lady I spent most of Wednesday/Thursday with who also had they/their as pronoun stickers (along with she/her) didn’t bat an eyelash at my lanyard!

It has cemented my “never again” resolve conclusion is that very few of the things are worth the queuing - they are perfectly fine but if you work out how much you effectively paid for each one and asked if you would pay that on the door the answer would be no!

Jocelyn Bell Burrell and Jeanette Epps were fab tho! And if the orbital mechanics talk tomorrow is the same as in Helsinki it’s worth going to!

GCSciFiFan Sat 17-Aug-19 22:29:58

Oh and if you fancy having some fun happy to give you my lanyard!!!

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Pudner Sun 18-Aug-19 10:53:27

Which one of the panelists said JKR was transphobic? I have just this morning discovered I am blocked on Twitter by an Irish urban fantasy author, despite never tweeting anything GC or remotely anti trans and wondering if it is the same person.

There was quite a bit of chat on Twitter over the bathroom poster. Most of it was heaping praise on the inclusivity of the event and the pronoun stickers. In fairness, I think the sci-fi/fantasy community tends to be fairly inclusive anyway but this event was even more woke and politicised than usual. And yet there was no provision made for lactating women via a lactation room. That is the inclusivity for you!

Also, the DCC has Gents, Ladies and Unisex bathrooms, side by side. On a few occasions when I was using the Ladies there was a transwomen using also. So even though the third safe space was there, they weren't using it that I could see.

Gcscififan Sun 18-Aug-19 11:57:56

Maquel Jacobs...but you can also add Emma Newman, Fran Wilde and sadly Mary Robinette Kowal to the list of those who have totally drunk the cool-aid.

And yes - this was far and away the worst worldcon for this...and I won’t be going to another.

We should have arranged a mumsnet party!!! Remember tw don’t want a third safe space they want ours :-(

That poster really pissed me off...I wanted to send dh into the ladies with a she pronoun sticker but otherwise as normal to make a point...but he’s too nice to do that!

Ereshkigal Sun 18-Aug-19 12:00:17

So even though the third safe space was there, they weren't using it that I could see.

Of course they weren't, because it's not about safety, whatever the hyperbolic claims.

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