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How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.

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MoleSmokes · 06/06/2019 14:52

The relentless promotion of trans-trans-trans-trans-trans everywhere represents a huge effort to mainstream what is still only a tiny proportion of the population but "predicted" to increase exponentially (I will have to add the reference to predicted increase in another comment when I find it!)

Clever marketing - top-down is very efficient but there have been years of preparation going on behind the scenes for the "trans agenda" to have dominated everything touched by LGBTQetc.

These are well worth reading to see how big changes apparently "come out of nowhere, all of a sudden":

Diffusion of innovations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations

Technology adoption life cycle
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_adoption_life_cycle

Technology Evangelists, Skeptics, and Those in the Middle
larrycuban.wordpress.com/2015/11/12/technology-evangelists-skeptics-and-those-in-the-middle/

Technology, innovation and management
www.open.edu/openlearn/ocw/mod/oucontent/view.php?id=27445&printable=1

Tools to analyze weak signals
www.nicolasnova.net/pasta-and-vinegar/2009/05/17/tools-to-analyze-weak-signals

Entertainment-Education
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment-Education

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I was reminded to post this by the thread "Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner"
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3605120-Munroe-Childline-s-first-LGBT-campaigner

In which @ChattyLion noted:

Just look at their homepage and you will find their info on this. First box shown under ‘ADVICE RIGHT NOW’ is ‘gender identity’. Above ‘physical abuse’, ‘FGM’ and ‘Confidence building’.

This is the homepage link:
www.childline.org.uk/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3605120-Munroe-Childline-s-first-LGBT-campaigner?msgid=87603493

How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
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MotherForkinShirtBalls · 10/06/2019 08:40

Interesting, thanks. I haven't read all the links yet but curious that so many influential trans voices/vocal allies are in tech...

OhHolyJesus · 10/06/2019 08:49

Really interesting OP. I've been reading the stuff from Dr Em on queer theory and it's clear to me now this has been decades in the making and I can see it now - it's very clever really, obvious and yet subtle. Time to blow the bloody doors off.

MoleSmokes · 13/06/2019 13:16

@MotherForkShirtBalls I am sure that they would be aware of those models :-)

@OhHolyJesus It will be interesting to see what happens when the "depathologisation lobby" get into full swing. They want:

  • Self-ID with no medicalisation at all
  • To have Childhood Gender Incongruence/Dysphoria removed from the WHO ICD
  • The new mantra "You don't need to be dysphoric to be trans".

If they get their way then I wonder if the medics will start to diagnose Body Integrity Identity Disorder to justify surgery and hormones??

In terms of influence of trans in society, this person (TW Social Worker, I understand) forgot the party line about trans automatically equally marginalised and powerless!

"The naivity from the anti-trans groups in this thread 🙄. We have trans Police Officers, trans Social Workers, trans Judges, trans ex Military Officers to mention just a few. The community grows all of the time, the ally groups also grow. The TERF's will one day be hushed."

archive.fo/tOVbg#selection-3931.0-3935.217

How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
How did the trans agenda get so big, out of the blue? It didn't.
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NotAtMyAge · 13/06/2019 17:19

Just look at their homepage and you will find their info on this. First box shown under ‘ADVICE RIGHT NOW’ is ‘gender identity’. Above ‘physical abuse’, ‘FGM’ and ‘Confidence building’.

(Name changed)

Interestingly, looking at the Childline homepage a week after this initial post, 'gender identity' is nowhere to be seen, having been replaced by 'exam stress'. Given that exams had already started when the OP posted, I'm guessing that the furore over Bergdorf and the NSPCC may have prodded someone to shift emphasis. Or am I reading too much into this?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 13/06/2019 17:29

not I was saying the same a few days ago. I analysed their Facebook posts going back to February. I can't remember what exactly I quoted before but I think it was something like 12 LGBT posts and 17 on everything else. And only 1 on exam stress because everyone knows teens aren't worried about exams, they are all fine.

This is all insane.

Oh and Childline the fucking exams finish TOMORROW so the stress has gone. Slow hand clap.

SarahPickles · 13/06/2019 19:42

Is anyone else actually frightened by all this?

I am.

Each time I read of some shocking incident my stomach churns. There have been nights I can't sleep for tossing and turning, worrying where all this is headed, trying to work out what the end game is. It's becoming overwhelming. I fear for all women.

Anyone else feel this way?

I feel we all need to get together and become an actual society, rather like the Victorian women who got together and created the suffrage movement, with ONE aim.

FemaleAndLearning · 13/06/2019 19:48

SarahPickles I feel the same as you. Last weekend I just didn't look at anything as I am feeling so overwhelmed and so powerless. There are so many areas to be involved in once you are down the rabbit hole I just don't know where to start.
I have no party to vote for next year and would welcome a national female party fighting to keep biological sex.

PierreBezukov · 13/06/2019 19:49

My local BBC radio station was discussing trans stuff again this morning.

Something about 'tempers have flared after the Catholic Church has questioned the ability to change gender.' discuss. I didn't bother listening to the phone in. Too depressing.

QueenOfTheCroneAge · 13/06/2019 19:59

@MotherForkinShirtBalls it has been noted on the trans widow's threads that many AGP men work high up in tech.

R0wantrees · 13/06/2019 20:51

this important thread illustrates how the historical lobbying by transactivists led to where we find ourselves now:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

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