Tavistock article in the DM

[Bowlofbabelfish]

Fairly damning.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6713887/NHS-transgender-clinic-warns-damage-young-patients.html

The report, made by former staff governor David Bell, said some children 'take up a trans identity as a solution' to 'multiple problems such as historic child abuse in the family, bereavement, homophobia, and a very significant incidence of autism spectrum disorder'.

from the article,
"But the trust's medical director, Dinesh Sinha, found no evidence to support concerns about the care provided and claimed the clinic was 'safe and operating in line with the best care in this field internationally'. "

GIDS 'Who We Are
"Dinesh Sinha has significant experience in the health service having held board level and senior leadership roles, including within his most recent trust and clinical commissioning organisations (CCGs).

He was previously associate medical director, head of service and consultant psychiatrist in psychotherapy at East London NHS Foundation Trust. He has held roles on several CCG governing bodies and continues to be involved in commissioning of health services.

Dinesh is a fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists and holds an MBA from Lancaster University Management School. He brings senior leadership experience and strategic focus in the delivery of high quality services."
tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/about-us/governance/board-of-directors/

2013 HSJ article,
'Lay members make stronger, transparent CCG boards'
'The addition of clinical and lay members to CCG boards makes them more representative and transparent, says Dinesh Sinha'

(extract)
"One of the key insights of the Francis report was the intransigence of the trust board at the heart of poor decision making, rebuffing efforts and information that deviated from its position. This could be thought of as an organisational “thick skin” that is at risk of developing in response to information from outside the board that challenges its internal understanding.

‘The ability to interrogate and challenge decisions and ways of operating are key to the value lay and independent clinical members bring to the board’

Many lay and independent clinical members bring past experience in boards and other senior managerial settings, which can be of benefit for developing board dynamics in clinical commissioning groups. The decisions required of CCGs are broad and cover all aspects of the local health economy. Hence many of the debates and papers presented to the board are necessarily high level and the sums of money involved are large.

A fresh perspective
The strength of lay and independent clinical members can be in their capacity to maintain the sensitivity of the board to the magnitude and impact of their decision and guard against any tendency to develop a “thick skin” such as in Mid Staffordshire. They can help preserve a fresh perspective and the ability to think outside the box to avoid familiar potholes.

Good medicine and business sense can be a potent but complicated combination. The ability to interrogate and challenge decisions and ways of operating are key to the value lay and independent clinical members bring to the board. They are able to do this given their independence from the immediate operational realities of the CCG, while keeping an ear close to the ground for emerging problems and difficulties." (continues)
www.hsj.co.uk/commissioning/lay-members-make-stronger-transparent-ccg-boards/5064089.article

Ethics committees for trials and studies also have lay members - it’s supposed to also be that ‘non involved voice.’

It’s very clear here that no overarching independent or impartial oversight is happening. This is a huge scandal in the making. It’s encouraging that clinicians are speaking up - they will be held responsible for this when it breaks so they do have an incentive to do so.

It is state sanctioned child abuse. Horrifying

From the link above, it's interesting to note the Chair of the Trust:

"Paul Burstow joined us as Chair of the Trust in November 2015 and is currently serving his first term, due to end in October 2018.

Paul was previously a member of parliament from 1997 to 2015, where he served on the Health, Select and Public Accounts Committees, and worked cross party to secure debates and lobby Ministers on social care and health. From 2010 to 2012 he was the Minister of State for the Department of Health and led the development of the “No Health Without Mental Health” strategy.

Prior to serving as an MP Paul was a Councillor for the London Borough of Sutton, and also served as first campaigns officer, and the CEO, of the Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors."

Paul was previously a member of parliament from 1997 to 2015, where he served on the Health, Select and Public Accounts Committees, and worked cross party to secure debates and lobby Ministers on social care and health. From 2010 to 2012 he was the Minister of State for the Department of Health and led the development of the “No Health Without Mental Health” strategy.

see thread on politically driven conflation of gender and sex within NHS.
OP Barracker wrote:
" medium.com/@anneharperwright/sex-gender-the-nhs-1e8f4e6363a6

They were ALWAYS based upon 'gender'.
The evidence is in NHS documents from 2010.
And the Department of Health were told, by the NHS team, not to tell people wards were segregated by sex, because they knew the policy was based on gender.

But the DOH purposefully used the word sex to the public instead.

We've been deliberately misled."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3396859-Weve-been-lied-to-about-Single-SEX-wards-since-2010

Anne Harper Wright's important work also here:
medium.com/@anneharperwright/sex-gender-the-nhs-bb86b0c3ebb

collation of information by HairyLeggdHarpy, see link for Hansard transcript:

"The Gender Recognition Bill
(extract)

I'm going to tweet out a few of the illuminating comments from the debates that led to the GRA 2004, to save you all ploughing through Hansard.
One of the primary motivations (if not the foremost) for the bill was to avoid legalising same sex marriage. This featured VERY heavily in the discussions.

It was, in the Govt's eyes, FAR preferable to convert a same sex couple into a heterosexual couple via 'sex change' than it was to make same sex marriage legal:

#GRA2004

Note how it was supposed to be only a 'small number'

And the justification of "if we allow sex to change we can sidestep same sex marriage" appeared over and over again...

and again

One of the obvious flaws in the entire process was the deliberate confuscation of sex and gender. The govt admitted that the two concepts were NOT THE SAME

Note the NO.
And then note the utter balderdash that follows. In this order:

1. Gender is not sex.
2. Govt will legally recognise gender
3. Gender should be legal sex
4. Acquired gender = legal sex
5. Something unexplained about man, woman and male and female
6. Sex = Gender

To recap, sex and gender are not the same, govt acknowledges, but we'd like to create a law that pretends they are, whilst still knowing they are not. Cool. This paved the way for what we've now seen evidence for: that 'female' people with penises can commit rape. As we now know, this happens

Tebbit anticipated it, and the Govt acknowledged this would happen." (continues)
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1049289194370002945.html

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3388967-Illuminating-Twitter-thread-about-the-origins-of-the-Gender-Recognition-Act?

Important thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3509817-Times-16-2-1-9-Staff-at-trans-clinic-fear-damage-to-children

I just so wish it weren't ONLY The Times and the Daily Fail reporting from a GC point of view.

^ and sometimes the Torygraph.

How I long for the days where these trash rags were against everything I stood for.

I just so wish it weren't ONLY The Times and the Daily Fail reporting from a GC point of view.

Well, while it’d be nice to have a strong GC left voice, it’s made me have a hard look at my politics. While I’m still left on things like a welfare safety net, I’m clearly not aligned with the left as is on free speech and a number of other issues. So for me, it’s been an eye opener and it’s made me consider a range of viewpoints much more carefully.

Well, while it’d be nice to have a strong GC left voice, it’s made me have a hard look at my politics. While I’m still left on things like a welfare safety net, I’m clearly not aligned with the left as is on free speech and a number of other issues. So for me, it’s been an eye opener and it’s made me consider a range of viewpoints much more carefully.

YES - me too.

And me. I'v had to do a lot of rethinking over the past few months.

And another one rethinking. It's been quite frightening to see how easily the left have slipped into a totalitarian oppressive mindset without any qualms. Not to mention how comfortable they are with the misogynistic oppression and bullying of women.

Yup. Also rethinking. I'm young and have always thought of myself as a socialist. I now consider myself left-libertarian. For free speech alone, I can't support the modern left anymore. As a side note, I wish Glinner wasn't so hostile to free speech. It really discredits us :/

It's ages since I did a test on political compass but even after a shifting of my views over the past few years I still come out as Gandhi.

After posting that I wondered where Trump would be. Apparently considerably to the Right of Hitler.

Rowantrees

And yet: Hospitals are exempt; see Equality Act 2010, Schedule 3 section 27 [5] Single sex services

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/schedule/3

current thread discussing significant development, OP EweSurname wrote:
"Times article - Governor quits ‘blinkered’ Tavistock clinic
Another fantastic Giliigan piece

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/governor-quits-blinkered-tavistock-clinic-82db7wzq8

A governor of the NHS trust that runs England’s only gender clinic for children has resigned in protest at its “blinkered” and “one-sided” response to doctors who had raised the alarm about “woefully inadequate” care.

Marcus Evans, a consultant psychotherapist at the Tavistock and Portman trust with three decades’ experience, told The Sunday Times that the trust had said things that were “not true”, had created a “climate of fear” and was trying to “dismiss or undermine” concerns raised by its own clinicians.

Some openly homophobic parents pushed their children to transition because they were gay, the report said. In other cases, youngsters seized on transition as a “solution” after abuse or bereavement. Their histories were not properly explored by clinicians struggling with “huge and unmanageable caseloads” and afraid of being accused of transphobia if they questioned the “rehearsed” surface presentation.

The report said Gids had tried to “placate” lobby groups such as the Mermaids charity, which campaigns for children to be given sex-change treatment."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3515980-Times-article-Governor-quits-blinkered-Tavistock-clinic

Yes, I still come out as economically left and fairly socially libertarian on political compass. It’s the mainstream left that’s gone socially authoritarian and left me behind.

Well, while it’d be nice to have a strong GC left voice, it’s made me have a hard look at my politics...it’s been an eye opener and it’s made me consider a range of viewpoints much more carefully.

Yes. I'm in exactly the same boat.

Stella O'Malley Twitter comment:
twitter.com/stellaomalley3/status/1099402782896017408

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3430608-Stella-OMalley-Trans-Kids-Its-Time-To-Talk

Metoo. So disappointed in left/liberals.

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