Breast Ironing in Scotland

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Article in today's Sunday Times.

Do they see the link between this and breast binding? Or between FGM and mutilating healthy teenaged bodies because they struggle with their birth sex emotionally?

Are there other psychological conditions where we treat them by damaging a healthy body?

I know breast ironing is very different but I am just wondering if the journalists / government are seeing the similarities.

Link? Sharetoken if possible?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/breast-ironing-performed-on-scots-girls-n6vz3ktgg?shareToken=a749fdc014e49ddb35c7a8f60bbb274c

Blooming heck. I thought I had posted this. So sorry. Not much point in starting a thread without it.

In other cases, elastic belts or binders press the breasts and prevent them from growing

That sounds familiar . I guess it is fine if it helps them become their authentic selves...

What the same scottish government who have sent LGBT Youth into schools to make swiss cheese of safeguarding and ban staff from reporting or dissuading breast binding?

There must be some splintered SNP backsides from all that fence sitting.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3377446-Tell-me-about-LGBT-Youth-Scotland

It will be interesting to see whether this is picked up by the rest of the media or whether the tra lobby are busy exerting their influence on editors and journalists to ensure that there's no more coverage.

“We know that there are no quick fixes to tackling FGM and there is no single solution to ending the practice

Therefore our approach to tackling it in Scotland is considered, collaborative and community based

These approaches appear to have achieved nothing.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24915967

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-scots-fgm-prosecutions-after-14-suspected-cases-1-3502766/amp

Perhaps they think breast ironing is bad because it is imposed upon girls, whereas breast binding is fine because the girls, sorry 'transboys', choose it for themselves?

In which case, of course, it's fine for teenagers to smoke, drink, take drugs and have unprotected underage sex. As long as they choose these activities for themselves.

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/media/1344/supporting-transgender-young-people.pdf

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A trans boy or non-binary young person who has developed unwanted breasts might bind their chest to flatten it, so they might need to wear a loose-fitting shirt or sweatshirt. Binders can lead to shortness of breath and can be painful during physical exertion.

Binders can, however , have a positive impact on a young person's mental health so staff should allow a young person to decide for themselves about whether or not to wear a binder, and help them join in.

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/resources/

This is from the guidance for schools pdf. This organisation is making a massive amount of money from the taxpayer and now has remit to go into primary schools to teach them how to do away with basic safeguarding in the name of Trans.

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/how-parents-are-being-shut-out-of-the-transgender-debate/

From the BBC report.

Det Ch Supt Gill Imery of Police Scotland said every daughter born in Scotland to a woman who had undergone FGM should be considered a child protection case.

"It most definitely is a form of child abuse and would be investigated as such," she said.

New Scottish government figures, seen by the BBC, revealed that between 1997 and 2011, 2,403 girls were born in Scotland to a mother from an FGM-practicing country.

However Det Ch Supt Imery revealed that police had not received a single referral from the health authorities.

Does breast binding have long lasting effects? I assumed that once the binder was removed the breast tissue would be normal.

My DD went to a LGBT Scotland youth group for 3 or 4 years (she is lesbian) and I would say it was a really positive experience for her.

binding can render mastectomy useless in cases of breast cancer, damage growing ribs/spine, compress growing lungs, etc.

lesbians are deemed transphobic now and being made extinct by groups like LGBT Youth.

Yes, breast binding can have serious long-term health effects: www.transgendertrend.com/breast-binders-in-uk-schools/

lesbians are deemed transphobic now and being made extinct by groups like LGBT Youth

That was certainly not the experience my DD had, there was only one trans kid there and she and other lesbians were 100% accepted for who they are.

It is alarming about the damage breast binding can do though, I always assumed it was harmless and reversible.

I'm someone who used to go to elaborate lengths to crush down my own breasts, that was due to an abusive older male relative who had behaved inappropriately towards me. It was extremely uncomfortable but luckily no damage was done.

When was your dd going to these events ginger?
Even over the last year things have changed dramatically.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3480325-Two-11-yo-girls-kill-themselves-after-being-bullied-for-being-in-love

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3479113-Professor-Kathleen-Stock-article-Can-Biological-Males-Be-Lesbians

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3447334-Lesbian-erasure-its-actually-happening

She left the youth group about 2 years ago.

The official shift from LGB to include the T seems to have happened around 2015 with Stonewall who LGBT Youth take their cues from so maybe you were lucky your daughter is that bit older and got the benefit of the LGB support before it shifted to everything protrans (initially adults and student aimed) and then over the past couple of years targeting children. Recent research is pointing to a marked decrease in teenage lesbians and a massive increase in teenage girls declaring themselves transgender (ROGD).

This is from the earlier thread...

SuperLoudPoppingAction Thu 27-Sep-18 00:07:28

I went to their training.
It was awkward for the trainer because I'm a lesbian.
But she recovered, bless her.

She said lesbians oppress bisexuals.
That was a bit much tbh.

Also viking sheild maidens were actually men.

And Trans people are treated really well in India.
My Indian colleague took over the 'making aghast faces' at that point.

Also women aren't ever penalized or harassed for being gender nonconforming.

Money well spent.

It's a racket basically.
Local councils want you to have the charter mark if you do work for them and support lesbians or gay men.

DD definitely gets a hard time for being gender non confrming, last time was only a couple of weeks ago when a college mate asked why she dressed like a boy if she liked girls, she has occasionally had abuse on the street too.

I do think lesbians definitely have a much harder time being accepted than gay men.

lesbians don't require men at all, so they are seen by some as a threat.

Lesbians are the very antithesis of transgenderism.

Women who will not accept men calling themselves women irrespective of the penis on account of the penis.

Lesbians are disrespectful, disobedient and in need of re-education in the form of forced stereotyping.