"It's ok to punch Nazis" becomes "It's ok to punch women"

[Freespeecher]

And lo, it came to pass that one of the (male) Bristol protesters has justified punching women who go against the Trans agenda (the same bloke who interrupted a Rees-Mogg speech and made him look a hero by saying he "wasn't worth" debating.

Please excuse the Guido article, but it at least shows that the Bristol aggression backfired as it's made some women MPs sit up.

order-order.com/2018/04/27/corbynista-mogg-thug-on-punching-women/

And finally, as a male poster, there's just time to sign off with the obligatory NAMALT!

If they could paint their own hand to look like a vagina they’d abolish the lot of us.

I loved this comment

“It's precisely because of Corbyn that these infants feel emboldened enough to act like this.
Once normality returns in a few years they'll be back in their mother's basements, happy with their Vaseline and Kleenex”

Clicky link:

order-order.com/2018/04/27/corbynista-mogg-thug-on-punching-women/

Utterly disgusting and frankly dangerous attitude to have that it's OK to punch women who disagree with you.

I hope Corbyn will condemn this type of behaviour - he didn't last time with Botha's similar comments did he? Just ignored it.

And a trans activist has been CONVICTED of actually doing this, too.

Good for the two female MPs for calling out this type of behaviour, that gives me some small faith in Labour.

Is it bad that the main thing I took from that article is that there's a person whose actual name is Thangam Debbonaire? Really, what were my parents thinking? A tragic lack of imagination.

Anyway, getting back to the point. It is my sincere hope that the Bristol video will be something of a turning point. I don't think any reasonable person could watch it and think that transactivism is just fine and dandy.

I think it's a fabulous name!

Ha, Thangam is the MP for Bristol West. She's as ace as her name, which I think is from her Sri Lankan heritage.

Well those "protests" were a bit of an own goal, weren't they?

Thangam is amazing. Some members of her CLP decided to try and censure her because of her views on all sorts of things, mostly Corbyn, they failed to pass the motion. She's survived breast(?) cancer. She's also bright and intelligent and more than a match for pewling manbabies.

Good to see it on the Guido site; takes the message to a whole new audience

Has that boy who says he wasn't there heard of photography? He's studying visual arts or something isn't he? Maybe they haven't got to cameras yet.

He seems like a delightful young chap anyway.

I can't imagine any conversation in which any reasonably decent bloke I know could possibly use the phrase 'yeah, I'll punch x kind of women'. Maybe if x equalled 'murderous robot'?

That was what got me into all of this - previously achingly-liberal people suddenly discovering a liking for beating and silencing those they disagreed with. If I challenged them, they'd say, "Don't you even want to punch transphobes? You bigoted piece of shit." Silly, but well-meaning, people have (in my view) been taught to believe that physical violence is once again an appropriate response to heresy.

previously achingly-liberal people suddenly discovering a liking for beating and silencing those they disagreed with. If I challenged them, they'd say, "Don't you even want to punch transphobes? You bigoted piece of shit."

Is this seriously true? I have seen a lot of crazy things recently but This sounds a bit too ridiculous to be true?

Still a shame that they framed the reason for the meeting to 'discuss transgender laws' rather than to 'discuss removal of womens' rights' or something along those lines...

@Wanderabout - it wasn't a direct quote.
A stupid Person I Used To Know (such a useful phrase) started posting lots of things on social media saying how much he'd like to beat up Nazis, etc. and how much he approved of no-platforming, etc.; I waded in saying if debates are determined by violence it's going to be the weakest who lose; people kept on mentioning "transphobia" as a good reason for no-platforming; I got riled and said I didn't agree with trans ideology; his mates ended up saying they were going to "beat the shit out of" me.
a) as DH says, don't quarrel with idiots online, it's unlikely to be fun.
but b) these were all reasonably well-educated, quite lefty-liberal people, the sort who'd have been proclaiming "Je suis Charlie!" a few years ago - who would've said they were against any sort of dogma, and any sort of censorship - and there they were saying they were all up for beating people up who disagreed with them!
It just upsets me so much that silly people on the Left have got enthusiastic about authoritarianism, and that the Right have been able to take the moral high ground with regard to women's rights and free speech.

Person Recently I Ceased Knowing

:D

@smithsinarazz

Is that not basically far left radicalisation?

Sitting from my position - slightly to the right of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the left doesn't come as any surprise.

Thangham (née Singh) won a MASSIVE majority in Corbyn-land in woke Bristol, however she has upset the like Corbyn-bros by opposing anti-semitism, and no doubt they will be doubly upset that she doesn't agree with punching women. Expect deselection shortly.

The far-left is as sexist as they come.

Far left has circled round to far right, surely.

There seems to be a lot of cross over with Antifa ideology - Don’t trust the police or government - you have to defend yourself.

It also seems similar to American right wing ideology - you need guns incase you have to overthrow the government.

(Not sure what you do if your preferred party gets into power - join the secret police?)

I googled Thangam because although I'd seen the odd mention of her in the press I hadn't been paying close enough attention to form an overall opinion of where she sat. Used to be a cellist with the Liverpool Phil - now that's seriously cool! But yes, opposes anti-Semitism, thinks punching women is wrong - these radical ideas may be a step too far for today's Labour Party.

MargeH "Sitting from my position - slightly to the right of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the left doesn't come as any surprise."

Sitting from my position - quite a bit to the left of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the far left doesn't come as any surprise to me either sadly . There have always been some nasty pieces of work. Kinnock cleared them out of Labour in the 80s. Then Milliband let them all back in again when he let non-members vote for the leadership for three quid

But yes, opposes anti-Semitism, thinks punching women is wrong - these radical ideas may be a step too far for today's Labour Party.
I find it quite frightening that saying you would punch a woman for holding a different political view to you hasn't been roundly condemned by more actual politicians.

Is this Josh Connor person a member of the Labour Party? If so will he be suspended?

Or do you just get suspended for expressing the views he's referring to?

Another left libertarian here who wholeheartedly disapproves of the authoritarian left.

A good time to post the Political Compass test? So that we can all see that right/left is a very different proposition to authoritarian/libertarian?

www.politicalcompass.org/

(I come out somewhere near Gandhi.)