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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Outstanding woman" award BBC Radio Scotland now

37 replies

Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 10:45

and yes, it's a trans-woman. Joe Clifford named by the Saltire Society. Being interviewed about the suffrage and the struggle for the right to vote "we fought for".
Always liked to look feminine and play with dolls of course......

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Geronimoleapinglizards · 12/02/2018 10:49

Shit.

I've just run out of anything else to say. How incredibly insulting.

YessicaHaircut · 12/02/2018 10:51

I misread that as ‘Satire Society’. Would have been much more appropriate.

StillTryingHard · 12/02/2018 10:52

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Gileswithachainsaw · 12/02/2018 10:53

Oh ffs

Terftastic · 12/02/2018 10:53

FFS.

QueenLaBeefah · 12/02/2018 10:54

Ffs

AssassinatedBeauty · 12/02/2018 10:54

I don't think that's entirely accurate. As far as I can find out, the Saltire Society induction 10 women into their "Outstanding Women of Scotland" community, one of which was Joe Clifford.

Link: www.saltiresociety.org.uk/news/2017/03/07/10-new-inductees-into-the-outstanding-women-of-scotland-communitee

Terftastic · 12/02/2018 10:54

It's just so utterly predictable though.

I thought the world had gone mad when Caitlyn Jenner spent 5 mins dressed as a woman, and got Woman of the Year - but it was just the start of things to come.

Fraying · 12/02/2018 10:55

So the most outstanding woman in Scotland is actually a man . . .ffs

LyndaLuvsDFW · 12/02/2018 11:00

This is an extension of the thing where a man does stuff in the house/childcare and expects a fucking medal for it because 40 years ago it was considered women's work. Now a man pretends to be a woman and DOES get a fucking medal for it.

LyndaLuvsDFW · 12/02/2018 11:04

I wonder how many trans men get nominated for men of the year type stuff simply because they're women who have chosen to join the men's club? But women are supposed to be grateful for the man who graces us with his presence? This actually makes me angry Angry

Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 11:05

assasinated. You are correct, one of ten, 'outstanding women' sorry if my op was misleading it wasn't intended. Point still stands though. Joe isn't a woman.

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Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 11:05

I did text into the show but it wasn't read out. I was very polite.

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Lancelottie · 12/02/2018 11:07

How on earth did that interview go?

'Gosh, I'd never even realised that transwomen were refused the vote before 1918! That's awful, isn't it? What did they have to do to get it?'

'They were, um, too oppressed to be seen as the true women they were, so they were OPPRESSIVELY MADE TO HAVE THE VOTE even though it denied their femininity. Or something.'

NorthernLurker · 12/02/2018 11:09

I think the best response is indeed the simple ffs!

Waddlelikeapenguin · 12/02/2018 11:11

"Her transition from John to Jo has enabled her to become an actor and performer." Hmm
From their web page.

BeatriceJoanna · 12/02/2018 11:17

'They were, um, too oppressed to be seen as the true women they were, so they were OPPRESSIVELY MADE TO HAVE THE VOTE even though it denied their femininity. Or something.'

Have had a depressing morning so far and this thread just added to it but that made me proper lol, thanks. Grin

PerfPower · 12/02/2018 12:34

Fucking hell. What an absolute farce.

Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 14:26

I suppose we are all supposed to just fall in line and applaud like a crowd of North Koreans.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 12/02/2018 16:09

S'pose it depends what your criteria for 'outstanding' is. I guess s/he does stand out...

Bejazzled · 12/02/2018 17:56

S'pose it depends what your criteria for 'outstanding' is. I guess s/he does stand out

....or their criteria for what a "woman" is......

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StealthPolarBear · 12/02/2018 18:00

Knew itd be a man before I opened hehe thread. All the best women are men.
We women just needed a man to show us how it's done.

AltheaTrell · 12/02/2018 18:04

FFS. What a piss take.

Horridemma · 12/02/2018 18:06

Really really really really ?

Another man / Transwoman representing women ? Under what guise this time? Seems to be we have loads of performers / media reps who gave been enabled through being a transwoman.

We are truly on our way to becoming third class citizens. #sexnotgender

NeganLovesLucille · 12/02/2018 18:08

I just knew that it would be a transwoman when I read the thread title. Beyond ridiculous.