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Would you get rid of the titles "Miss" and "Mrs" and use just "Ms" if you could?

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peppaistired Sun 26-Oct-14 15:36:43

I would like to campaign somewhere about this. I don't see the point in having so many titles around for women, and only one and simple for men: "Mr"
After all, why should people or society care if we're married, or single? They don't seem to care in the case of men, why is there still an issue with women's marital status?

Amethyst24 Sun 26-Oct-14 15:49:20

Yes, I would. Once you've done that, though, it raises the question of whether Mr and Ms are actually necessary either. All they do is define adults by gender.

CalmAndConfused Sun 26-Oct-14 15:50:11

I would, most definitely.

Kewcumber Sun 26-Oct-14 15:51:35

Yes it irritates me. I don;t see why its relevant - if you need to know if someone is married then add a tick box for that and make all adults fill it in.

EBearhug Sun 26-Oct-14 15:51:38

No. If there were a campaign, I'd want it to get rid of gender-based titles entirely. Why is it anyone's business (other than medical staff sometimes) whether I'm male or female?

My preference is not to use a title, and I get mail sent to E Bearhug when possible - many web pages have been badly programmed and don't offer you the option of no title. Others seem to get filled in by default, even when I haven't entered anything in that field, so I have received letters to Mr E Bearhug.

I would be prepared to compromise on dumping Miss/Mrs, one step at a time - or we go like France and Germany, which is Madame and Frau for all adult women, married or not, and use Mrs for everyone. (Not that anyone had told me before the first time I tried booking into a German hotel on my own in broken German, and was trying to explain Ich bin nicht geheirartet/I'm not married - which should probably have been verheirartet anyway...)

Yrs, Comrade Bearhug. (Actually, in German, that is gendered - Kamerad/Kameradin)

GilbertBlytheWouldGetBit Sun 26-Oct-14 15:52:28

I would. I'd get rid of titles entirely, someone's gender shouldn't matter, let alone their marital status.

shinysparklythings Sun 26-Oct-14 15:52:35

I wouldn't I love being a mrs. I personally hate ms. Just use what ever makes you happy

AtiaoftheJulii Sun 26-Oct-14 15:54:01

I'd get rid of all titles. Completely unnecessary. At least for most of the things that we use them for. You can be a baroness if you like, but your post will still arrive without being labelled thus. You can have it for your passport, bank account etc.

I've seen Mx (gender neutral) a couple of times lately and will use that if offered.

GilbertBlytheWouldGetBit Sun 26-Oct-14 15:54:16

Why do you hate Ms? I don't see the point in all and sundry knowing a woman's marital status.

SirChenjin Sun 26-Oct-14 15:55:08

No - I wouldn't. I am an adult and am free to make up my own mind what title I use. I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't call myself - it is no-one else's business.

grenedeer Sun 26-Oct-14 16:02:07

Yes, definitely. So many people tie themselves in knots about which one to use, it feels slightly intrusive to ask or be asked even if it's just for a form and it really doesn't matter nowadays what your marital status.
Don't think it matters what title w

OddBoots Sun 26-Oct-14 16:03:13

I agree with getting rid of all non-professional titles, they aren't needed.

SirChenjin Sun 26-Oct-14 16:04:23

I can't remember the last time when Ms wasn't an option on any form I have completed. Why is it such a problem to have a range of options for adults to choose from? confused

OddBoots Sun 26-Oct-14 16:06:47

Okay, for those who like titles and want a choice I'd like it to be acceptable for all people to be able to choose entirely freely from Ms, Mrs, Miss and Mr without any sex or marital status being assumed from it.

grenedeer Sun 26-Oct-14 16:06:48

we end up with, after a few years people would get on with it and hardly remember a time when it was any different. We're quite good at change when it's forced on us.

Yama Sun 26-Oct-14 16:07:13

I would get rid of all gendered titles.

AtiaoftheJulii Sun 26-Oct-14 16:07:23

So - talking non-professional titles only - men get one choice and women get three. Why is it at all important to know whether women are married, and not men? No titles.

shinysparklythings Sun 26-Oct-14 16:07:44

I probably dislike it because the few people I have known that use it have been horrible- which is an awful reason for not liking it. It probably wrongly makes me think of man haters and cat ladies.

I'm a teacher so get called miss most of the time. I enjoy using mrs when I check into hotels etc. I see it as a celebration of my marriage smile

SirChenjin Sun 26-Oct-14 16:08:21

And who has the right to force this change on anyone?

ArsenicChaseScream Sun 26-Oct-14 16:08:56

Nobody who professes to hate 'Ms' has ever been able to explain their hatred to me. I wish someone would. The mystery is irritating.

AtiaoftheJulii Sun 26-Oct-14 16:09:15

Can't you celebrate that between you and your husband? Why would you think anyone else cared?

LuluJakey1 Sun 26-Oct-14 16:09:37

I never use any title, nor does DH. We both teach and students just call everyone Miss or Mr. My badge just says my first and surname and all lists do to. I never give a title. It is no one's business.

HorizonFocus Sun 26-Oct-14 16:13:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ArsenicChaseScream Sun 26-Oct-14 16:13:16

makes me think of man haters and cat ladies.

X post. Why??

shinysparklythings Sun 26-Oct-14 16:15:29

You are right nobody else probably does care, but I do.

Like I said it is an irrational dislike of ms, sorry I can't explain.

I also completely understand why people don't like gender titles. I agree that professionally it doesn't matter if you are married or not. So what's the point? I agree that from titles you can't tell if a man is married so why should you for a woman. Despite that I am proud to be a mrs.

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