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Who should have moved out of the way in this situation?

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Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 14:42:05

Just had a very minor incident but I’m new to all of this and I came away feeling like I’d done something wrong.

Walking pup who’s 6 months old on lead on a normal pavement (not wide but wide enough for 2 people to cross paths comfortably).

Lady coming around the corner towards us with her dog on lead. Pup gets excited and pulls to the end of his lead (which is about 4ft long) there’s still 30ft between myself and the lady.

As she sees us approaching she shouted ‘my dog is NOT friendly’, she made no attempt to change direction and kept coming towards us so I crossed the road with pup.

So no drama at all but I thought shouldn’t she have been the one to cross over? She really shouted at me, which I understand but her tone was as if I was in the wrong. Shouldn’t she have shouted ‘sorry, my dog isn’t friendly’ and turned immediately to cross instead I had to get out of the way for her.

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Honeyroar Tue 11-Feb-20 14:45:06

She was probably worrying because your pup was at the end of it’s lead looking excited. She probably just wanted you to rein it in and have a proper hold of it. If both dogs were on a short lead and under control nobody needed to cross over.

emma123456 Tue 11-Feb-20 14:46:23

I'd say you move. She sounds like she had complete control over her dog and you didn't.

Lostkeyagain Tue 11-Feb-20 14:46:43

I guess if your pup was the one initiating interaction and likely to try to go over, you were right to cross over.

She could have been nicer about it but it’s better than your DDog getting a fright from an unfriendly dog; I’d much rather people warned me so I can get my dog clear.

ticktock19 Tue 11-Feb-20 14:47:08

The dog I walk for a neighbour is very anxious and can sound very aggressive when she encounters another dog and I always make the effort to be the one to move out of the way - either cross the road or pull in to the side and wait for the other dog to pass. You were very obliging and it makes me wonder if she struggles to control her dog with the way she shouted.

CMOTDibbler Tue 11-Feb-20 14:49:59

I would have shortened up the lead, and put pup on your heel next to the hedge, so that she could do the same with her dog roadside - this is the normal procedure. If yours won't walk past nicely, then you put them in a sit and 'look at me' while the other passes.

SilentTights Tue 11-Feb-20 14:50:38

Does it really matter? I mean, I get that she was riude but no one in their right might would allow a six month old dog to walk near to a dog that may react badly - regardless of rights or wrongs, you are respsonsible for your dog's happy upbringing so do whatever it takes to do it right.

TBH she may also have been on the receiving end of a load of well meaning puppy owners trying to "socialise" their dogs by introducing them to every older dog they meet. It gets pretty stressful if your dog is nervous around other dogs for it to keep happening (and it does).

Plus, maybe her dog is not aggressive if it is just passing a dog, but just doesn't want to be jumped on and yours on the very end of the lead looked like it might so she was asking you to have greater control if you were going to pass close by. Which also seems reasonable.

People often greatly underestimate how much space (almost all) dogs need to pass each other comfortbaly - especially head on.

She still should have been more polite about it, though.

Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 14:54:05

SilentTights no it’s doesn’t really matter at all, like I said in my op in was a very minor incident and no drama but I’m new to this and wanted a more experienced dog owners take on it because I’m sure it’ll happen at some point in the future.

Thanks everyone.

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SilentTights Tue 11-Feb-20 14:55:15

Fair play, I didn't mean my opening para to read so rudely. I more meant that I wouldn't sweat whose fault it was but would do whatever necessary to look after my dog.

tabulahrasa Tue 11-Feb-20 14:59:25

“So no drama at all but I thought shouldn’t she have been the one to cross over?”

Well no, not if her dog was walking normally on the lead... because if yours also had been you could have just passed each other without anyone crossing over.

Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 14:59:32

Which I think I did didn’t I? With hindsight stopping and putting him into a sit would have been a better idea but my first thought was to just divert, this puppy training stuff is all so new to me still.

Anyway, I’ll do that if our paths cross again.

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Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 15:01:40

* tabulahrasa* he’s a work in progress when it comes to pulling ahead, we haven’t got it nailed yet but we are working on it.

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Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 15:04:40

Why do people on this board have to be so abrasive in their replies? It certainly puts me off asking for advice so it must do the same for others which is such a shame.

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Floralnomad Tue 11-Feb-20 15:09:05

She may have just said he’s not friendly because although she was happy to pass you she didn’t want to stop and let the dogs sniff each other , I would do the same because my dog is not good with pups although he’s perfectly safe to pass on a pavement .

DogInATent Tue 11-Feb-20 15:11:07

She was giving you advance warning to shorten the lead, and to either move to one edge of the path so she could move to the other - putting yourself between your pup and her and her dog.

She probably didn't recognise you as a regular dog walker already familiar with her and her dog (we all get used to which other dogs need caution to pass), or thought that because your pup was bouncing around at the end of the leash you were one of the "he only wants to say hello" idiots types.

Neither of you needed to cross. You're on the learning curve of dog walker etiquette.

I'm similar to the other walker in my reactions. I'll alert other dog walkers that my dog doesn't like to be bounced at head-on. I'll stop and allow someone coming towards me to fit a leash if their dog is loose, or to get control of it's not. And I'll react to what they do in terms of pavement position. Usually I'll stop at a convenient point and make my dog wait on a shortened leash against my leg whist you pass. There's a few I will cross over for, but only because I already know their dog is more reactive than mine and from experience that there's no peaceful means of passing each other.

Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 15:12:15

Floralnomad ah yes ok, so that would explain why she didn’t stop or go to cross, she could have been saying don’t let him sniff rather than don’t let him pass. That makes sense.

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SittingInMustard Tue 11-Feb-20 15:13:29

Has anyone been abrasive? I don't see any rude replies, just factual ones.

Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 15:18:44

Yeh I do find people very abrasive on this board. On most threads where people are asking for advice there’s always some blunt and often rude replies often from the more experienced dog owners. It’s not like that on the puppy support thread which is nice,

It’s fine but its not my style. I’m just not a good fit for it.

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tabulahrasa Tue 11-Feb-20 15:24:36

“he’s a work in progress when it comes to pulling ahead, we haven’t got it nailed yet but we are working on it.“

Well yeah, he’s a puppy smile

But if he’d been able to just walk past with you, without trying to greet the other dog nobody would have had to cross, so it should be you crossing is all I meant.

AgathaX Tue 11-Feb-20 15:26:40

As others have said, it sounds like she was asking you to rein your dog in and get him under control by your side. Pulling four foot ahead and straining on the lead isn't good, so it was fair enough.

Honeyroar Tue 11-Feb-20 16:55:55

I can’t see many blunt or abrasive replies, apart for perhaps one which was apologised for. I thought I was giving a helpful reply.

LochJessMonster Tue 11-Feb-20 17:00:53

As the owner of a dog who is not dog friendly, I always move away from the situation. Even if the other dog is doing the most perfect heel or sit.
My dog is the one that is going to react, so I remove us from the situation. It's part of having a reactive dog.

frostedviolets Tue 11-Feb-20 17:07:57

I would not be at all happy if I was walking on a pavement and in front of me another dog approaching ran and hit the end of it's 4 foot lead ahead bouncy and wanting to interact.

Your dog wouldn't be under control and mine would be stressed and possibly react badly.

They should be walking near enough at heel when passing on pavements imo

Velveteal Tue 11-Feb-20 17:17:05

We were 30 foot away! He didn’t run, he wasn’t bouncing!! He’s a tiny puppy. We crossed the road. I’m not happy to be shouted at by someone with a reactive dog!

Thank you for all the constructive replies. I’ll continue to train him not to pull and I know for next time that I was correct to cross over or another option would be to have put him into a sit.

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jinxpixie Tue 11-Feb-20 17:26:00

I always take action to ensure my dog is comfortable in any situation so I would have crossed over BUT if your dog was reacting to mine on a long line I would also be vary that your dog may have stepped off the pavement to interact with mine. So I would have spoken to you to clarify this

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