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Lanchester Mon 25-Apr-16 14:29:09

Do the Junior Doctors seriously think that they are still
respected for always putting the interest of their individual patient first?

summersky11 Mon 25-Apr-16 14:39:08

I think they will lose a lot of public support over this coming strike.

slicedfinger Mon 25-Apr-16 14:40:17

I fully support the Junior Doctors in this strike.

rollonthesummer Mon 25-Apr-16 14:42:50

I fully support them too. I don't know anyone that doesn't, tbh.

AnyFucker Mon 25-Apr-16 14:44:46

I fully support the junior doctors in their industrial action

OddBoots Mon 25-Apr-16 14:46:56

What other option do you suggest they have to stop the government from pushing through dangerous changes? They have my support.

GiddyOnZackHunt Mon 25-Apr-16 14:49:51

They have my support too.

YoungGirlGrowingOld Mon 25-Apr-16 14:58:33

I do not support them. Irrespective of the rights and wrongs, I could not support any action that puts lives at risk (or for that matter, that involves the cancellation of 12,000 operations). Many of those cancelled operations will be long-awaited by people who have cancer and/or are in pain. Many of them will probably never earn as much as a JD.

I agree with summersky - support will decline further if a patient is harmed or killed. Both sides seems to be riding roughshod over that possibility.

PortiaCastis Mon 25-Apr-16 15:01:38

I fully support them also

KateBeckett Mon 25-Apr-16 15:10:03

younggirl don't believe everything Jeremy hunt says- the strike won't put people's lives at risk- emergency cover is being provided by consultant level doctors, who fully support their junior colleagues.

As do I!

AnyFucker Mon 25-Apr-16 15:13:35

it is far more likely that many, many more patients will come to harm if the govt gets its own way in imposing new contracts on the junior doctors

that is the whole premise of why they feel they have been puhed to this point

AnyFucker Mon 25-Apr-16 15:13:53

*pushed

Worieddd Mon 25-Apr-16 15:15:38

I fully support the junior doctors strike.

unexpsoc Mon 25-Apr-16 15:19:35

I tend towards the opinion that somebody who has studied for 5 years, then trained for 3, and is currently in the middle of specialism training for up to another 12 years has said "I know this will kill people, but screw you I want to be paid more and get weekends off". It doesn't flow logically. More likely they have taken a difficult decision to say "I know 12,000 people will have operations cancelled, but I have put in most of my life trying to heal people and believe this new contract will endanger people".

There will be risks (no matter how much cover other doctors provide) of injury, harm and death. But I am sure every doctor on that picket line will have weighed that up.

I fully support the junior doctors.

HeyMacWey Mon 25-Apr-16 15:19:43

I fully support the junior doctors strike.

claig Mon 25-Apr-16 15:22:12

From what I understand of it, I support the junior doctors too

Mrsmorton Mon 25-Apr-16 15:22:49

Full support here too.

YoungGirlGrowingOld Mon 25-Apr-16 15:24:28

Hmm my DH is a consultant Kate and he definitely doesn't support them. Both sides are equally disingenuous though - Hunt in pretending he doesn't have an agenda for reform, the JD's in pretending it's not about rates of pay on Saturday.

theredjellybean Mon 25-Apr-16 15:25:02

interestingly the goverment are 'eyeing up' the nurses contracts as well...

“It is clear that the current national contracts for NHS staff – agreed at a time when many services were delivered only during the week – can act as a barrier to the delivery of sustainable seven-day services,” the document states.

that is from a document produced in jan 2015 to the pay awards bodies.

nurses currently get 60% extra for sundays and 30% extra for saturdays....so if the juniors doctors are going to lose supplemental pay for antisocial hours, then so should every other health care professional...and they will if this govt has its way.

so Lancaster will you be so vitriolic when it is a nurse on approx £20 k a year losing her weekend suplements ?

unexpsoc Mon 25-Apr-16 15:28:21

I am now SUPER excited to see what happens to YoungGirl when they screw over the consultants (it's the next contract in their sights, and currently under negotiation).

The tension is brilliant!

KateBeckett Mon 25-Apr-16 15:28:46

I would suggest he is in the minority yoinggirl

KateBeckett Mon 25-Apr-16 15:28:57

* young

theredjellybean Mon 25-Apr-16 15:31:41

unexpsoc....my thoughts exactly !

ajandjjmum Mon 25-Apr-16 15:31:49

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the new contract, I can't believe that as a country we pay the tens of thousands to educate each doctor, and they can then disappear to work wherever, without making a contribution towards the cost of their training.

I think the new contract should certainly include 5 years work within the NHS following qualification.

theredjellybean Mon 25-Apr-16 15:35:24

ajandjjmum....i used to think that to , but now there are uni fees and loans etc, i feel that actually they pay for their own training !

and after finishing med school no one pays for your exams and courses etc that you have to do , to undertake your speciality training.

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