I yam what I yam

[Bubblegum89]

Thread 6... 😑

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement. Please read the rules before posting!

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shalt not arrive one day and post BFP next day
  

• Thou shalt not give advice to others when TTC for one month only
  

• Thou shalt not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways
  

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month
  

• Thou shalt not be offended by strong language
  

• Thou shalt not tell everyone to eat yams
  

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night
  

And most importantly...

• Thou shalt not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if you do so.
  

*NEW RULE ALERT!*

-Thou shalt not post pictures of positive pregnancy tests. We will be delighted to hear about it but no photos, please and thank you

[Si1ver]

Ooh a shiny new thread.

[DoAsDreamersDo]

A new thread already! Thanks for starting it Bubble it’s a shame that most of us are still here though (also, I’m liking the new rule!)

[ronswansonstache]

Thanks for the new thread! Placemarking...

[Justwaitingforaline]

Thank you, Bubble, I’m very much enjoying the sound of the new rule.


I’ve been sent home from work. I woke up with awful nausea which hasn’t gone away and every time I stand up, I feel like I need to be sick just what I want as I’m coming up to the FW..

[pinkdonkey]

Checking in.

Just waiting I usually feel like that to some extent between ovulation and AF sometimes I am sure I am going to actually throw up or pass out but it hasn't happened yet .

I'm still struggling, have been to the GP today who has very reluctantly started me on an antidepressant. I've had a bit of a lecture on how he would prefer me to be medication free whilst ttc, which hasn't helped how I'm feeling even though I've discussed it with DH and we both agree the medication is the right thing to do.

[LookingAtTheStars89]

@Bubblegum89. Ha Ha! I love the thread name. It made me titter.

I'm fairly sure, ok not fairly sure but I think I may have ovulated yesterday. I had a headache last night and the copious amounts of ewcm that I had ( a whole weeks worth ) has all dried up. I'm incredibly snoozy today, I'm considering drawing eyes on my eye lids so that I can close them and people will think I'm still awake (I used to watch Tom and Jerry as a kid lol)

I'm tempted to cut out sugar and dairy almost completely during this possible tww to help keep inflammation down. It might not make any difference but I'm willing to try.

[LookingAtTheStars89]

@pinkdonkey. My GP point blank refused any pain/antidepressants/sleep aids when I saw her a few months ago. You have to do what you feel is best for you x

[LimpLettice]

Love new thread thank you. The new rule is perfect.

Just waiting wish you better super fast.

No news from me. Still no contact from anyone, although midwife was supposed to call before her appointments. I appreciate the thought Bubblegum but really not holding my breath

[pinkdonkey]

looking good luck sounds positive. The thing is that I've read the studies and there's no conclusive evidence that there is any risk from antidepressants in the first trimester, just some poor methodology studies that found there might be a correlation between heart problems and antidepressants. The 1 better quality pair matched clinical trial by UCL found that any increased risk could be attributed to lifestyle factors associated with depression rather than the antidepressants themselves. I think GPs are just terrified of prescribing anything in pregnancy just incase, which I can understand to a certain extent but I don't think is good management and obviously ethically drug companies can't conduct clinical trials on pregnant women to see what happens so there's very little guidance available.

[Si1ver]

@pinkdonkey well that was supportive and nice of her. I never get why antidepressants are stigmatized in that way. If your kidneys weren't working no one would hesitate to prescribed you meds. Your serotonin receptors aren't functioning properly, medication will help your chemical makeup rebalance.

I had a near breakdown last year because of work stress and had to make the decision not to medicate because my fucking PCT wouldn't consider us for adoption of I'd been on ADs in the last year. As it turns out I could have taken them, because my miscarriage stoped us adopting anyway. Have I mentioned that I hate my PCT recently?

[LexieJean]

Hi ladies 👋 and new thread. Thanks @bubble and great new name! 😂

@si1ver how do I pm you for that clinic list? Using mn online on phone. I should probably get the app after all this time.

Struggling to get my various test results for ivf- never before has 21-40 days seemed so long!

🤞for you @looking
Hope someone calls you soon @limp

[Si1ver]

@LexieJean I've just sent you a PM. At the top of your screen there should be a blue icon of a person and it'll have a red dot on it now to show you've got a message from me.

[LexieJean]

Brilliant, thanks @si1ver

[LookingAtTheStars89]

@pinkdonkey. Well people outside of this thread will probably shoot me down on here for saying this but when DD2 was conceived I was on an AD, a fairly high power one and I didn't know i was pregnant until 7 weeks (I wasn't ttc and had just filed for divorce so of course I got pregnant!) and there was nothing wrong with DD or any complications pregnancy wise. She was born a perfect 6lbs 11oz at 38 +6. She is perfectly happy and healthy.

@Si1ver. The stigma surrounding AD's is quote frankly pathetic. If you have a high BP - meds. If you have high cholesterol - meds. If you have diabetes - meds. No questions asked. If your brain has a blip - it's a big should shrug or you're labelled "not fit for purpose" if you're taking them!

[MynameisJune]

Checking in again!

@si1ver I’ve sent you a PM for the spreadsheet. Your PCT sounds ridiculous to be honest. Can’t adopt if you’ve had a miscarriage! What ever?

@pink I’m glad you got some meds, as others have said you get ill in any other part of your body and you get meds. Your brain is a bit poorly and they’ll make you suffer for nothing.

[Si1ver]

@MynameisJune yes they are. And no, I can't adopt for a year. We'd been planning to start the process in December but miscarried in October.

I've pinged you an email. Anyone else who's interested just about.

[Si1ver]

*shout not be about.

[MynameisJune]

@si1ver thank you! It’s fab, very comprehensive! I can’t believe how shit your PCT are. So many children need families and there are constantly adverts around here for adoption but they use things like M/C against you!

[Si1ver]

It's so good isn't it? I updated it with a few bits and pieces I found but most of it came to me as is from another poster.

Feel free to pass it on to anyone else who would like a copy.

[bridget33]

Hi there, I'm new to Mumsnet but have been ttc for seven months now...my af was due today and I have been really hopeful this cycle as I have no period pains, have been feeling nauseous and just had a good feeling. Anyway, I could resist waiting and took a test today and it was a bfn - am so devastated and am more upset this month than any other month. Am starting to think it may never happen and am not sure I can deal with that pain...what makes it worse is that family and friends know we are trying as I arrogantly thought it would happen quickly and that just makes me feel even worse and more inadequate. Anyway, I just wanted to rant. Sorry for the negativity

[Doodlebug89]

@bridget33 I also wish I never told people. We kept it relatively on the 'down low', but I told a couple of friends who had been trying for a while that we would start TTC in December. I thought that we could all give each other moral support once I started trying. Well, now they have both had their BFPs and I'm the only one in our friendship group still trying . Although we have only been trying 3 months (skipped/skipping March and April as the timing was bad) I feel concerned they're pitying me and dread seeing them with their bumps. It adds so much additional pressure when people know.

[Doodlebug89]

P.S. It's always disappointing to get a negative. Hopefully this is your cycle :)

[bridget33]

It's so much harder than I thought. My dad calls me every week and asks "any news?" And I have just laugh it off and pretend it's not like a dagger to the heart! I really never thought it would take this long. I went to my gp in feb and she has been rally good. I have had blood tests and am having a pelvic ultrasound next week. As I'm 33 I think she was happy to do some investigations. I just hate obsessing about it as it's all I think about. Am half thinking of just giving up completely as it's taking over my life. My best friend is also pregnant with her second child and she has tried calling me but I can't bare to speak to her at the mo as I'm in such a bad place.

[Doodlebug89]

@bridget33 Maybe you need to have a quiet word? Could you explain that you know they are excited, but that you don't want to be rushed. Personally I wasn't planning on telling even my family until I have a 3 month scan, so if people kept asking me it would be annoying even if I was pregnant as I'd have to lie.

[Doodlebug89]

I think it's a bit cheeky to ask. My family are quite tactful and wouldn't dream of asking, but my DH's family have been constantly mentioning it since our wedding. Not 'are you pregnant', but 'you'd better get a move on you two', or 'you've got all this to come' (when I play with my nieces and nephews). They're not known for being tactful. I'm only 28, give me time!