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AIBU to think that if you commit an adult crime you shouldn't receive anonymity

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Ohbehave1 Tue 18-Oct-16 15:35:40

After hearing that both of the children involved in the murder of a mother and daughter have been found guilty I think that they if they were adult enough murder someone, and then go and watch films and have sex after that they should be old enough to be named after.

Their crimes were particularly nasty, and as such they should live with the consequences for the rest of their lives. They certainly shouldn't be able to do a few years and then get out with anonymity and start their lives as if nothing ever happened.

kimlo Tue 18-Oct-16 15:39:02

why have they been granted anonymity when other children haven't?

Amelie10 Tue 18-Oct-16 15:40:21

Yanbu these rotten things should be locked up for good, never mind given anonymity.

Soubriquet Tue 18-Oct-16 15:41:52

No they shouldn't be given anonymity but the law is the law

I did start a thread asking in this day and age it's possible. Most people around here (we live in the same town) know who they are and others have proved a quick Google is all it takes to find it out anyway

MoreCoffeeNow Tue 18-Oct-16 15:42:04

There is the possibility it's to protect members of their families.

Aquasport Tue 18-Oct-16 15:48:15

Agree with more, I suspect it is because family involved and to protect their identity, nothing has been reported on the motive which would also support that

Thisjustinno Tue 18-Oct-16 15:48:25

It's to protect the families. And it's very easy to find their names in 5 minutes online.

FlyingElbows Tue 18-Oct-16 15:48:38

Have you stopped, for even a second, to consider how two 14 year old children ended up in that situation in the first place? Daily Mail "hang 'em" frothing is much much easier isn't it? What good is naming them going to do? You realise there are more than likely two very vulnerable families with God knows what kind of chaos going on behind them? Other children? Other people who need to be protected from the mob "justice" that naming these kids would inevitably bring.

They're clearly both massively damaged and they very much will live with the consequences for the rest of whatever you can call a "life" that they might have. What they did was shockingly abhorrent but throwing them and their families to the torch welding locals will do nothing for anyone.

Ohbehave1 Tue 18-Oct-16 16:00:09

Flying Elbows. I understand that totally but these monsters will be out and about with no care about what they have done.

And the families in 95% of cases should be taking some of the blame. How the hell do 2 14 year olds get to a situation where they can murder 2 people, watch films, have sex and carry on like nothing had happened.

Cherryskypie Tue 18-Oct-16 16:03:10

It's impossible to explain why they've been granted anonymity without breaching that anonymity.

Soubriquet Tue 18-Oct-16 16:03:35

Yes Cherry

PikachuSayBoo Tue 18-Oct-16 16:04:53

Everyone locally knows who they are.

Soubriquet Tue 18-Oct-16 16:06:24

Yep. And why they did it

happymumof4crazykids Tue 18-Oct-16 16:07:11

It was reported at the time of the murder who they were. Maybe they are both sociopaths or mentally unstable and instead of giving them the 'glory' of being known for what they did its better to deny them this?

BarbarianMum Tue 18-Oct-16 16:07:20

Why do you feel the need to know their names? Would it help you judge them better, or is it just for a personal thrill? Or are you planning on popping along to their relatives and having a word?

HarleyQuinzel Tue 18-Oct-16 16:10:33

First you say they are old enough to know what they did, then you say the family's to blame?!

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp Tue 18-Oct-16 16:13:28

Op... in 95% of cases ? Can you link to that?

gettingitwrongputtingitright Tue 18-Oct-16 16:14:09

Can someone link to the case please?

Hippywannabe Tue 18-Oct-16 16:19:56

Soubriquet-why did they do it?
The other thread enabled identification within seconds so I think anonymity is gone.

Cherryskypie Tue 18-Oct-16 16:20:35

You are breaking the law if you identify them.

gettingitwrongputtingitright Tue 18-Oct-16 16:28:38

Just found link on the other thread.sad sick.

sashh Tue 18-Oct-16 16:30:30

why have they been granted anonymity when other children haven't?

Probably because of the Thompson and Venables situation. The actual killers were safe in a secure children's home, their families have had to move numerous times.

You can say the parents are to blame for the way their children were brought up but younger siblings were not, they have had their education interrupted numerous times.

Then when the killers were released they had to be given new identities, I believe more than once.

All the moving of families, false ID etc etc has cost us, as tax payers, a fortune and for what?

Just so that we could stare at the pictures of two 10 year olds who did a dreadful thing?

James Bulger's family certainly had a right to know who they were/are but did everyone?

I don't think I gained anything from the names being released, does anyone think they did?

P1nkP0ppy Tue 18-Oct-16 16:32:40

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FlyHighLittleBee Tue 18-Oct-16 16:32:52

Yep. And why they did it

I know who the two were, but I was under the impression it was not known why they did it.

Soubriquet Tue 18-Oct-16 16:33:21

Can't say why as it breeches their anonyminity

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