Do you know any misogynistic women?

[ovaryhill]

I've been reading a bit about this and wondered how common it is.
Has anyone had any experience of this?
I know at least one woman who behaves as if she hates other women and is very derogatory about women in general, agrees that wearing short skirts means you're asking for trouble kind of thing, sees other women as a threat and would prefer to work for men
Any opinions or experience?

[anorakgirl]

Yep. I worked with one until quite recently. She was very odd anyway but her level of misogyny was breathtaking. She also genuinely thought every man fancied her and I mean every man. She is very very toxic. She is 40 and still lives at home, has never had a serious relationship. She also tried to crush professionally any woman she perceived as a threat.

[somesortofmagic]

Know a couple - one who thinks there should be a version of feminism but to support men 'founded' as feminism isn't 'fair on men' and men are very badly treated apparently. She thinks if you choose to 'fight' for residence of your kids and win you shouldn't be entitled to maintenance and women who dress very sexily are pretty much just out to shag anyone, especially other people's partners.

I often get offended by the claptrap that comes out but at other times feel sorry for them, this stuff seems to come from a deep insecurity and inability to accept people can live different lives to them without it being a threat to them.

[MrsJayy]

My mum christmas day was all serve the men first blah blah she doesnt hate women though I suspect she has just been worn down by men its sad to see.

[witsender]

Oh yes, lots. My mum, to a degree...who praised my husband the other day for 'helping out' with the kids, is horrified that I don't iron and has been known go make awful comments about women who are attacked based on assumptions about their alcohol intake or skirt length. Similarly about others' physical appearance full stop. On the flip side of that despite having had mental health problems over the years she could not comprehend my lovely husband being signed off work with stress, men should work regardless of their feelings and health. She doesn't understand why I am fully supportive of massive income drop to facilitate him starting his own business.

Even my sister, who is a woman high up in a very male dominated field...who thinks that women have no right to expect equality of pay once they have had children (conveniently ignoring the fact that it affects all women, before, after and not involving children) and told me she felt sorry for my husband when I joked I didn't have time to shave my legs when my eldest was a newborn. And couldn't understand what I thought was wrong with that.

It is rife, IMO.

[baublesbells]

Yes. I have been told by fellow women that I shouldn't drive or work

[Truckingalong]

There's loads of women like that. It usually comes with low intelligence. Misogyny in both men and women tends to come with low intelligence and a lack of critical thinking skills.

[SheGotAllDaMoves]

Goodness yes.

In RL and on MN.

[scrumptiouscrumpets]

My grandmother was like that. She never had a good word for women, was scathing about their presumed physical weakness, kept saying how they weren't fit to do most jobs, they were always at fault when a couple split up or a couple's children went off the rails, female politicians were pathetic, a joke and could never be taken seriously, what was a woman doing in politics anyway.... I could go on.

Luckily, she had only sons. She clearly favoured her male grandchildren though. The strange thing is, she was a very emancipated, strong woman who didn't take shit from anyone! She was always travelling alone, worked in a responsible job and never did any housework, she had a cleaner for all that. No idea why she had all those weird ideas about women.

[MorrisZapp]

My paternal grandmother was the most sexist person I ever met. If she had to make a complaint in a shop, she'd demand to 'speak to a man' . She gave women small portions of food and ranked them all in order of their sons/husbands status.

[derxa]

A lot of it on MN. A lot of hatred directed at other women.

[BubsandMoo]

A frequent comeback of my DP's when I point out everyday sexism is "but it's written/said/designed by a woman!". There does seem to be a widely held belief that women can't possibly be misogynist/all women must be feminist.

[Fatfreefaff]

My SIL sadly. I have never heard her say anything complimentary about another woman. Her first words to me after 'hello etc' were was I intending to work after DC1 was born as she did not approve of working mothers.

Strangely neither my PIL or her 3 brothers have ever expressed views anything like that. She married young after messing up her career choice and I think her only validation comes from attacking other women.

[MrsJayy]

Yes ^^ lots of women on here hate women and their view and choices im not expecting to be the sisterhood or anything but hating women for being women is alive and kicking on mn

[Polgara25]

Yes, an ex friend of mine. She actually talks in terms of children being born to unmarried parents as 'bastards' and seems to think that every women other than her is a slut. States that she can't trust women and doesn't like working for them either.

She can't see that the reason that she finds women untrustworthy is that she treats most of them with disdain. People are not nice to you if you're horrible to them...

I feel sorry for her in a way (not enough to talk to her again though).

I don't think this sort of thing is necessarily caused by low intelligence, more a lack of self-esteem or they are judging other women by their own low standards - it's their own unacknowledged faults that their actually talking about.

[witsender]

Most who say they 'don't like women'. Like we are some kind of hive mind.

[anniroc]

My in-laws know a Protestant woman who is going to leave her local church because the new priest will be female and she refuses to take Communion from a woman 😯

[AnyFucker]

Lots and lots

Often the ones that claim they "get on better with men than women".

[BertrandRussell]

Start a thread about feminism and watch them swarm in!

[witsender]

Cross post AF

[reallybadidea]

My grandmother believed that women shouldn't be in positions of authority because they can't deal with it and it makes them 'hard'. She was unable to explain why she thought Margaret Thatcher was the best thing since sliced bread.

My mum thinks fathers 4 justice have a good point. Growing up, I was taught that single mothers are the cause of most of society's problems and that women routinely stop fathers from seeing their children for no reason. On the eve of my wedding she took me to one side and told me seriously that although my partner had previously been 'very good' about helping out around the house and looking after the baby for me, that once we were married he would expect me to 'run the home'.

As this thread is about misogynistic women I won't go into how my dad believes women shouldn't work when they have small children because they can't concentrate on both things...

Did anyone catch the misogynist's bookclub earlier this week about 50 Shades of Gray? It was excellent on internalised misogyny and how we all do it.

[sofato5miles]

My mum. Only sees herself through men's eyes and is visibly irritated if no men are present at get togethers, as 'they are so much easier to talk to.'

[FantasticButtocks]

Yes. My own mother.

[StrawberrytallCake]

I have an ex-friend who believed there were no funny female comedians and that women in general can't be funny.

Her self worth is/was always justified by the amount of men who surrounded her and if any of her friends had a partner and they broke up she would always stay in touch with the man regardless of how well they got on. She went on to happily break up a family, I know it takes two but she has no regard for the wife and mother of her 'stepchildren' of two years and refused to meet her before marrying their dad.

Another two mid 20s women I know believed that women who came out and said they had been raped were often making it up .