Could get someone sacked - WWYD?

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I have information that could get someone sacked, or at least force them to resign.

This person is a vicious bully and deserves to lose their job. Over the last 2 years they have taken great delight in getting rid of people they didn't like by making their working life hell.

This person is very senior in the org and everyone is scared of them. The union have recently raised a grievance, which many managers have backed.

I have information that would support the grievance and also raise questions as to this persons decision making and integrity.

The dimlemma I have is that I am not sure whether the information would be enough to get them the sack - the person is very good at talking their way out of things.

If I came forward, it would be obvious the information had come from me so there would be no point in asking to remain annoymous.

If the person didn't get the sack they would make my working life hell and I would be forced to leave. If I don't do anything, they will be able to go on behaving disgracefully and making other people's life hell.

There are people higher up in the org that I feel should be speaking out and would have more damning evidence than me but they won't because they are too scared.

So WWYD?

Go to the people higher up in confidence and tell them what you know

Damed if you dont - the bullying will continue and could be damned if you do, however if they continue to make your life hell afterwards at least it will be easier to highlight to management

If you complain and then are treated differently because of that complaint then you are being victimised and the law is on your side. Record everything.

Can you say exactly what you know? Are they commiting Fraud or something?

What you knowight support other issues you know nothing about and be the very thing that gets rid of them. However it might not be fnough on it's own and we can't really offer advice without knowing what it is. Is there any way for it to be verified at all, IT, paperwork etc ?

Thanks for the advice.

The people higher up know exactly what is going on but are too scared to do anything about it - have tried but feel like am banging head against brick wall.

I know the law is on my side but then the only option is to pursue things through formal procedures and eventually legal action.

I work in the voluntary sector and the things are more to with breach of some the codes our governing body sets. I have documentation to prove some things and I am sure it would be enough to instigate an investigation from the governing body. The concern I have is that it the person will plead ignorance/talk their way out of things/blame others (have seen it happen before) and that no-one will back me up.

DH doesn't want me to say anything. I am on maternity leave and he thinks it will affect the rest of my leave but I am already in turmoil.

My fear is that if the person does talk their way out of things, I will be forced out. They will make it so uncomfortable for me, constantly criticise, set unreasonable targets etc until I cave and leave. I know I am protected but then I would have to go through an employment tribunal.

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I'd put the information in, and start looking for another post. I don't think that not putting the information in will make you feel any more relaxed.

Can you go over the head of this person and the people that you feel are scared of them, and talk to the top person in your organisation? Can you request a conversation with the governing body?

Is the issue serious enough that the press might be interested?

Tell the truth. Because, tbh, if you don't you are complicit. And that's really as bad as lying imho. (I realise it's not as easy as that, good luck!)

The person is at the top of the organisation so nowhere else to go. It would be the governing body I would be speaking to - in effect whistleblowing. I could ask to remain annonymous (sp?) but the documentation (have emails) could only have come from me.

I know LittleSilver and it makes me feel sick. But so does the thought of trying to work with the person after they know it was me - my position would be untenable. I am fairly senior and have a position of trust - they would do whatever they could to get rid of me. Is that really what I deserve for keeping my mouth shut? There are others above me who stand back and let things happen that they know are wrong without even trying to stop it. They are loading the gun by passing down information and expecting others to fire it. Their justification is that they can't afford to lose their job because they have a new car , but I have a new baby. AIBU to think it is crap that this seems to have stopped at my door as I feel shit no matter what I do?

Well at the least if they stay, you could go for constructive dismissal!

Is there any mileage in asking to speak to the governing body anonymously and checking whether, in theory, your complaint has validity and what the likely outcome would be?

It's horrid that this has stopped at your door but if they hound you out after this, I think you would have a pretty clear case for constructive dismissal and at least you'd be out of the company.

Thanks TYV. I know I would have a case and also believe I have a case for sex discrimination and victimisation due to the way I was treated before my maternity leave. Just not a very nice thing to go through and would also worry about effect on future job prospects.

Thanks for the advice though - that is what I was thinking of doing. Have heard today that the governing body are already taking an interest due to a union complaint but if they do get involved and decide the org is not being managed appropriately; they could force us to merge which means I might end up out of a job anyway

Are you in theunion could you speak to someone for advicevthere?