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onefatoneshortonelean · 09/01/2010 19:15

Thanks lostinwales. I want to ask some things that I can't really ask someone at the university or future employers etc.

Am I too old? I will be 39/40 by the time I qualify

Can I work P/T or jobshare? And if so, how long would I need to work F/T for before I could do that. I don't want to come accross as lazy but I really would like a job where I could work 3-4 days a week whildt dcs are around. I left my old job after ds was born because there was no prospect of P/T work.

Can you specialise in something, then change years later? In my fantasy world I see myself doing something 9-5ish routineish whilst dcs are at home then being able to switch to trauma and getting nights and weekend work so dh and I can spend days together. I've just made this up so I have no idea if its feasable at all.

Is it interesting? I am really attracted to the anatomy/biology/healthcare aspect. Is it something different everyday?

Is the NHS a good employer? They get a lot of bad press but from the outside they seem to have good pension scheme etc

Is there anything bad about it? How hard is the degree?

I want to do something before I do the course to get me back into studying (I graduated in 2000) and to boost my chances of getting on the course and possibly making it easier when I'm there.
The university has an access course for the elderly but I'm not to keen because its for people who have no GCSEs etc so although I would be exempt from the basic maths and english bits I would have to do biology, physics and either chemistry or health studies and it would be stuff I have already done in my A levels and degree.
I thought it might be more useful to do a distance learning course in something like anatomy. Any thoughts on this? Doing the access course might be the simplest thing and I'm sure its what the university would reccomend.

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ampere · 09/01/2010 19:57

Long alert!

Hi I'm also a diagnostic radiographer. NOT a therapy radiographer (different altogether but a guaranteed job!)

39/40 is nothing! I regularly assist students in their 50s! (Portsmouth uni). The great thing older students bring is maturity. We have to teach the 18-19 year olds how to actually communicate with another human being! Whereas with the older students, we can get on with teaching radiography.

P/T is very possible. My DGH has many what I call 'middle aged bags' inc me whom the dept rely on to inject a note of common sense, calm and maturity onto 'the shop floor'- and it's not that they're all very experienced, just 'grown up'! Whilst it is more common to do the full monty in terms of shifts/nights early on in your career then go P/T later (almost that 'baptism of fire thing you need to go through- you never forget your first single-handed multi trauma!!) I would imagine you could do limited hours. General GP and out-patient can be less stressful.

You can specialise in the following, really:

Accident and Emergency
Paediatrics (noooo!)
Interventional and fluoroscopy (barium studies, examination of arteries and veins AND fixing problems with a scrubbed radiologist: NB a radiologist is a specialist doctor in the feild)
CT (computerised tomography)
MRI (magnetic resonance imaging)
Theatre and Ward which tend to be off shoots of general radiography.
Breast screening (excellent for P/T!)

You need further study to do:
Ultrasound (a full-on year's one day contact a week diploma BUT a fast route to band 7 BUT you do wear the responsibility of your own reporting)
Nuclear Medicine (ditto? not sure)
Advanced breast screening
Image reporting (again, band 7)

You start at Band 5.

Interesting?
Well, I've been a rad for 25 years and I must say I thought it was the job I'd do before I 'found myself' but here I am! I do 19 hours a week doing CT and MRI scanning plus a bit of Sunday A&E. But I loathe theatre! Hours of tedium followed by 5 minutes of panic stations.Personally I enjoy my job. My colleagues are a good and diverse bunch of people; whilst you can have a meaningful exchange with your patients you don't get close enough to 'get involved'. Whilst it can be physically tough (lots of 'manual handling' these days- lots of the extreme elderly) you don't get covered in blood or vomit or worse very often !

The NHS is a good employer, by and large. You have lots of rights and not a bad pension scheme. The tosh you read in The Mail largely washes over us as I think it is still true to say the at the pointy end, the NHS does what it says on the tin. It would be fair to say the biggest complainers we come across do tend to be the least unwell!

Bad things?
Mm. I wouldn't want to do our shop-floor hours anymore! THOUGH their longest shift is 16 hours, 4.30pm to 8.30am, I used to do 9am one day to 12.30 lunch time the next before the European Working Time Directive banned such practise!!

You DO get the piss taken- being woken at 4am by some punter with a 3 weeks duration sore toe, for example; Consultants from 'a bygone era' who need a good spanking- arrogant bar-stewards, though again, a lot less of that now that when I started! And in my line, 'forcing' (via coercion, really) elderly patients in their last month or so of life to undergo stressful and upsetting tests to prove what we already know about their condition ("Female, 91, showing signs of confusion. Please do CT head scan"..) Why, why, why? (Fear of litigation: if we don't scan and the post mortem shows a brain tumour NOT that ANYONE would have done ANYTHING about it!- the rellies MAY sue! Butt covering is the biggest drain on NHS funds).

As for the course, there seems to be a lot of work BUT it doesn't actually seem very difficult. You don't actually need to be hot on physics or maths to be a good radiographer. There's a lot of touchy-feely padding as in all health care professional courses these days but I doubt you actually need A level maths, chem or physics to handle the course!

What I'd do is to try and get a few days work experience in a DGH. Ask lots of questions, and try and get to question the current students, too. I did a diploma a thousand years ago so can't really help you with that side of things.

Be aware that jobs in radiography aren't ten a penny like they once were. Admittedly, quite a few students are merely fulfilling their getting into med school as a mature student requirements, and we are always disappointed by the number of 1st year students who actually seem to have no idea what the job entails on their first clinical placement! Wot? TOUCHING patients? Eww!... but I believe all students do seem to get jobs.

I wish you luck but in conclusion, my advice is that in these uncertain times, there are a lot worse professions to be in than health care!

lostinwales · 09/01/2010 23:14

Hi, I will post in the morning when I get the computer back from DH, great career IMHO, whenever you start, workable around lots of things, speak to you tomorrow

onefatoneshortonelean · 10/01/2010 11:11

Thankyou

I am feeling quite youthful now! Technically I would have 25 years of work ahead of me if I start at 40 which is a lot better than 25 years of doing not much.

My biggest concern is the hours and arranging childcare but I might be overthinking it. I think it must be much more difficult to get childcare when you work shifts etc and also when you are a student and your hours change every semester. I have been a SAHM since ds1 was born and its always been so easy.
I suppose I will just have to get on with it because doing nothing is not really an option. I need to use my brain again and I don't want to be sitting here with nothing to do when they have left home(or even when they are all in school really).
It does sound like something I will enjoy and I think I might be reasonably good at it. I am feeling very positive about it all.

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lostinwales · 10/01/2010 15:43

D'oh, lost a very long winded post then, probably for the best. Boiled down too agreeing with everything ampere said (GREAT name btw), we're a friendly bunch us radiographers! Although I specialised in paediatrics which I love and worked in a childrens hospital for many years, and I also love theatre work because the operations are fascinating and the surgeons can be great if they know you are interested (best ever as a student was open heart surgery when the surgeon lifted the heart and showed me around the anatomy, when it was still beating!!!). Get some work experience and ask some questions, you'll have a great time, good luck.

onefatoneshortonelean · 11/01/2010 12:53

Thanks

It good to hear that you both enjoy your jobs and it looks like there is such a variety of specialities that it would be almost impossible to end up being bored. I could get a dull inflexible job without doing any extra study so I am pleased it sounds as if I could have an interesting job that I will love and it will all be worth it.

Someone is putting me in touch with a RL person who works in mamography so hopefully I will be able to get some experience through her.

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CMOTdibbler · 11/01/2010 12:55

If you were interested in therapy radiography, the hours are pretty much 9-5, even through training, and there are loads of part timers.

It is more physics orientated, but the upside is that you get to build a relationship with patients as you will see them 30-40 times.

onefatoneshortonelean · 16/01/2010 15:26

The big drawback of therapeutic for me is there isn't a local uni that does it. I think I am drawn more towards diagnostic but even if I wasn't, to study therapeutic would be too much of an upheaval. In some ways its good that I don't have the choice because I'm dithering so much as it is with only one course and one uni that will be ok logistically.

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