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Kids Craft Clubs

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HeadsUp · 30/11/2009 23:10

Hi, old mumsnetter but not been on for ages. Looking for some advice and wondered if anybody ran kids craft clubs. Ta

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HeadsUp · 03/12/2009 13:26

Bump, also interested if anyone does other types of baby and kids classes or does crafts for kids parties.

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ShellingPeas · 03/12/2009 18:44

I run music classes for under fives and also do crafts for parties. What sort of thing do you want to know?

HeadsUp · 03/12/2009 22:12

Really just sussing out if there is a market for that sort of thing.

I would like to run 1hr classes/ workshops for under 5's during the day and perhaps a primary age class after school term time, and perhaps something in the holidays.

Know about insurance, tax and NI etc.

Really trying to see how much would be reasonable to charge, what size of classes to have, how much people would expect in relation to variety of activities each week etc.

I run a Brownie pack and love doing crafts with them, so I thought I could put all my planning and arganising experience to use and actually make some money too. I am also a qualified nursery nurse.

The feed back on the other thread I started aimed more towards the parent was that they were happy to do arts and crafts at home, or if they weren't so much into that they thought they would have the opportunity for messy stuff at toddlers group or nursery (which of course for many is free).

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ShellingPeas · 04/12/2009 17:04

this may be helpful (although I do know it is from the dark side) but not many huns on this discussion board. There are some messy play/arts & crafts people on there who have lots of experience - takes a bit of reading but useful info is hidden away there.

Briefly, regarding tax, NI, insurance etc - if you're looking to set up as self-employed then you have 3 months from setting up the business to register with HMRC or you will incur a £100 fine. (However, if you don't make any money, you don't pay tax.)

Public Liability insurance is definitely worth having for peace of mind - mine cost around £85 for a year with £2 million cover.

At present CRB checks aren't necessary if you're not working with the children without their parents being present, but I'm assuming you would have one anyway being a Brownie leader. A CRB check is useful to have because some church halls will not hire to people without having one.

Most classes where I'm based (South East) range from £4 up to £6 an hour - these are for music, toddler gym/activities etc as we have no messy play or craft groups. Several have started but not continued - not sure why really as I am in Yummy Mummy commuter belt, but it hasn't taken off here. I would imagine, because of your demands on equipment and having to constantly renew your resources of paint, glue etc you would need to charge more than, say a music class, which has fixed equipment costs.

Class size for music groups is usually around 14 children max, but perhaps with crafts, where you don't have the same noise levels, you could have up to 20 depending on space.

I read the other thread as well, and I agree with some of the comments - I did crafts with my 2 DCs (although found it horrendously stressful) and then once they went to pre-school they did all the necessary messy stuff there. But then I only took my eldest to baby music, and just for a term because it was so bloody awful - that's what inspired me to set up my own music classes as I thought I could do much better myself!

HeadsUp · 04/12/2009 22:25

Thankyou for the link, never thought of checking out the darkside .

Hmm I wonder why they never took off, see I don't want to embark on this then find out there just isn't the call for it. The trouble with doing market research is many mums say oh yes would love classes like that, oh yes would pay the money because they like the idea of it, but in reality most won't bother or just do a term.

Your right most of what I will use will be consumable but on the plus side I can buy in bulk and don't have such high costs for permenent equipment. I would choose halls that have tables etc.

Luckly I don't find arts and crafts stressful I really quite enjoy it and love seeing the kids engrossed in something creative. Last week I was making paper mache monsters with my own kids (they are 10 and 12) and at Brownies we have been making allsorts of Christmas things, so all very crafty at this time of the year.

Lots more to think about and research me thinks.

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