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Work being obstructive about me returning after mat leave - desperate!

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LadyThompson · 27/08/2009 10:09

I agreed verbally with work last July that I could return to work part time from home. I went on maternity leave mid-Sept 2008 (DC born Nov 08) planning to return mid-July 2009 when my statutory mat pay ceased. A fortnight before I was due to return, I was called into work for a meeting with my boss (it?s a tiny company so no HR or anything) and she said that she was rescinding her offer to allow me to work part time from home as she didn?t think it would work. She also said she never seriously expected me to return to work after maternity leave (even though I always said I would). She said she had expected the girl covering my mat leave would continue in my place. I asked to work part time in the office instead of at home, and she said that even that would be difficult for her to accommodate. I was shocked and upset, but when we parted I said I would think up a compromise and she indicated she would do the same.

On 4th July, three days later, I sent her a summary of our meeting, together with a proposal for how things would work if I was part time in the office. (The girl covering my mat leave only does four days instead of five anyway, so if she would drop to three I could do two, which would be fine). I reluctantly decided and indeed felt forced to take three months Additional Maternity Leave which, as you know, is unpaid, meaning I would return week beginning 14 Sept.

On 7th July my boss emailed to say she needed to think about it all and could we discuss it after a hol I was about to go on. She?d be in touch, she said. (I returned on 18 July).

On 20th July, she emailed to say a close relative was poorly so she couldn?t address her mind to things and would contact me soon.

On 3rd August, another email saying she?d be in touch ?soon?.

On 13th August, after a chasing email from me, she said she would come back to me with a counterproposal by 17th August at the latest.

On 18th August, she said she would come back to me with a proposal ?as soon as she could?.

On Mon 24th August, she emailed to say that she wanted another meeting. I replied to say that I didn?t really want another meeting, as last time she pulled the effectively pulled the rug from beneath my feet with no warning (obviously I put it in a more tactful way) and suggested email was more straightforward, or even the phone. I was not being obstructive, but a trip to London takes a full day and costs £27.50 trainfare and I just felt that all of our contact could be undertaken on the phone or by email. Moreover, given that she was not due to be in London until the week beginning 31 Aug I was aware that this would create yet more delay if I waited to see her face to face. I reminded her that if my suggestions of 4th July weren?t suitable, I?d be delighted for her to come up with a different suggestion or even a range of suggestions to discuss. I asked her to come back to me that same day. She hasn?t replied?.

I can buy myself a bit more time by taking a month of annual leave from 14 Sept (when I am supposed to return) as my holiday runs January to December and has been accumulating whilst I have been on leave (I doubt my boss realises this) but that will only take me up to mid-Oct.

Obviously I feel like telling them to get lost but I need this job and having worked for them for 12 years, I know perfectly well that my working part time would not be unfeasible.

I am at my wits end. Any ideas what my next move should be?

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LadyStealthPolarBear · 27/08/2009 19:14

I assume you meant not possible to work PT?
Well surely the two of you could job share (which is effectively what you proposed)
Was going to say I would return FT to make sure you do still have a job and sort out the PT working from there, but it doesn't look as though that's going to be easy any more (although you do have the right to appeal).

Can I just make another case for making a fuss rather than keeping your head down? What if you want another baby sometime in the future?

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LadyThompson · 27/08/2009 20:08

Yes, not possible to work part time.

She said not possible for me or anyone else, so don't know what's happening to the other girl. I think they just think I won't go back and that will be that, and she will do my job full time

I think I will return just for a couple of months (frankly to hack them off as they clearly don't want me to) and meanwhile, do anything to find a part time job.

I hate them. I did not want to put DD in full time nursery and they knew this over a year ago, but have only told me my job has to be full time NOW.

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LadyStealthPolarBear · 27/08/2009 20:48

Any chance family can help out until you can get a PT job or job share?
I'm so angry on your behalf - you've obviously wrecked their plans of you not going back (I assume your cover is cheaper too...)

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LadyThompson · 27/08/2009 21:03

Thanks LadyStealth - you guessed it right, my cover is cheaper and is a friend of the boss.

Mine and DP's family are all in excess of 100 miles away.

I just feel so despondent.

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kd73 · 27/08/2009 21:39

Can I please get some advice on this matter and you all seem so well informed...

I am currently on maternity leave, due to return in the New Year having taken a full year, 3 months of which is unpaid. I spoke with my manager in May and basically set out my stall of what I would like to do upon my return and we agreed we would speak again in July, which we duly did. It was agreed that I could return to role on a part time basis working either 3 or 4 days a week and I agreed 4 shorter days would be better all round and would make my position more viable. I have an email from my manager confirming this is acceptable and welcoming me back on 4th Jan. However the email does state it is subject to another managers approval but they will contact me if there is a problem.

My partner made his flexible working application in Jan and it was discussed and verbally agreed in Spring/early Summer for him to work 4 days in the office and cover the extra day either in the evening or weekends from home and to take effect 1st Sept. His employers have now retracted this (with 2 weeks notice) and basically offered to reduce his salary and for him to work a 4 day week. This will obviously reduce our household income dramatically and hacks me off no end as he currently works approx 10 hours overtime per week in the evening at home for no pay due to a high workload.

I subsequently returned to my employer to get clarity on my position and they have basically said that they can not agree anything until 6 weeks before I return to work. Obviously this makes childcare options very limiting as we simply don't know what we are doing...

Any advice on how we can proceed would be greatly appreciated...

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LadyThompson · 27/08/2009 21:43

Kd, I am very sympathetic to you but would you mind awfully starting your own thread?

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kd73 · 27/08/2009 21:50

Of course not...
good luck and and please post on my thread if you manage to get any good advice which may help!

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LadyThompson · 27/08/2009 22:09

Will do.

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traceface · 27/08/2009 22:32

lady that is very stinky indeed. Am so and on your behalf. I have nothing of any use to add, other than in relation to parental leave - you might be wise to not use it now because if you do end up still working there, you may well need those days if dd is unwell or something, in which case you'd be stuck if you'd used them all up.
It seems that might be by the by now though with your boss's latest email. I hope the employment lawyer can advise you very soon before you run out of days to appeal.

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wingandprayer · 28/08/2009 17:14

Just come back to this thread, sorry to hear about the e-mail you received Lady. Has that employment lawyer been back in touch yet?

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pushmepullyou · 28/08/2009 23:32

I've just come back to the thread too. Very sorry to hear this as well. Think I would be minded to do the same as you and return for a bit and find a new job asap. I assume that if the other girl is part time atm (I think you said 4 days per week?) she would no longer be eligible to do your job on this basis?

Could you request contracting your hours? Working through lunch hours could give you an extra 5 hours per week and with a couple of evening/working from home hours if feasible this would still give you full time hours, but a day a week at home. Alternatively might they let you work a day from home?

Hope the employment lawyer can give you some professional advice!

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LadyThompson · 31/08/2009 14:52

Hi there,

was away for the weekend. Employment lawyer very very helpful and we were just about to serve them with an official grievance for starters when work got back in touch and want me to go in for a meeting on Wednesday to 'sort things out' (whatever that means). They will pay my trainfare in and sound concialatory all of a sudden, so we shall see...Pushme, they have previously insisted that any working from home is a no (after previously saying all my work could be done this way!)

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wingandprayer · 31/08/2009 19:01

Well that sounds good. If they know they buggered this up you may end up with better deal than they planned originally, and if they still playing games, you know what to do next. Really hope it goes well.

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LadyThompson · 07/09/2009 07:42

OK, so they offered me six months' full time salary as redundancy. No other choice really but I will try to get them up a bit. I feel pretty down about it all but not sure I have got the stomach for fighting it.

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