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Compulsory 2 day motivation course thingy - are they being unreasonable?

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Nighbynight · 08/07/2009 21:26

I am working in a project with about 20 people, all but two of whom are contractors. The other 2 are employees. I am one of the contractors.

Anyway, our project is under the control of the sales dept, even though we are NOT sales people. They have devised a huge team motivation event, which will run for 2 days and 2 nights, and involves camping in the middle of a forest, around 120 km from where I live.

Now this is the problem. I am a single mother of 4 children. I have 100% parental responsibility for my children, which means that if anything goes wrong, I will get the blame. My children are looked after while I am at work by a very capable 19 year old, but I don't want to leave them for 2 nights. Our house is a tip with no spare room, and I can't face having a stranger sleeping in my bed, even if I was ready to pay a babysitter.

The children are all having problems in the school - dd1 has chronic headaches, and was in hospital last week because of them. She is getting osteopathy for scrunched up vertabrae, but still feels v ill.

ds1 has just changed classes at school, because his teacher was bullying him (finally the school reacted after weeks of me nagging). He is a nervour wreck, and I have recently had him lying on the floor at midnight crying and trying to break his fingers so that he doesnt have to go to school the next day. One of the nasty things his ex teacher did was to ban him from a school camping trip that she had arranged for his old class (she just said, right from the start, that he was not going). This camping trip is happening NEXT WEEK, ie the same time that my work wants me to be fannying around in a tent. Obviously ds is very upset about the whole thing, and it would not be tactful of me to go camping this week.

ds2 is a potential liability at any time, he is very immature for his age.
We all had a horrid virus this week, and felt dreadful.

To put things further into context, I have never been on holiday with my children, and have never put up a tent with them. The thought of putting up a tent with my colleagues, just makes me very angry indeed.
At the moment, I am just about holding myself together between 9 and 5 to do my job. The last thing I want to do, is "relax" with my work colleagues in the evening. Especially as I dont like our new manager, and cannot possibly relax while he is around, in case words slip out that would later be regretted.

I am very tired, and have a headache, and today I was arbitrarily told in the dept meeting that attendance at this thing next week is mandatory, and that I must turn up - I had previously explained that I couldn't make it due to heavy family commitments.

I feel that they are treating us like children. They have no right to invade my private life like this. Is this normal in other people's experience?
Is is just a clash of sales vs the normal engineering style that I am used to?
Why do they want to dragoon us along to an event when we clearly don't want to go?

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Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:19

I don't think that going for just one day will do. They are doing some stupid team building shit, which lasts for 2 days. They won't give us details, it is supposed to be a big surprise.

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kathyis6incheshigh · 09/07/2009 18:22

x-post
going for most of one day might do to show willing.

kathyis6incheshigh · 09/07/2009 18:23

x-post again, sorry.

Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:25

Best idea yet, is to offer to go just for the days.
leave home at 6am - get back c 9pm.
I would be there between about 8.30 and 18.30.

going to cost a f**g fortune.

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Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:26

the important thing, as you say, is to show willing to compromise.

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CarGirl · 09/07/2009 18:26

what a pain. I would just pull them out of school for 2 days!!! Or would that be a huge no no in bavaria too?

Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:29

If I say that I can only manage the days because dd is ill, ds has just changed class, and leaving my children with an AP is not acceptable babysitting...

and if they then refuse this and say I must go anyway...

and if I then go, then I will look like a liar who exaggerates
and if I don't go, then I may as well start job-hunting now.

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Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:29

cargirl, I ahve already asked for permission to take ds along, and it was refused.

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Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:31

I should add, that AP is super-trustworthy. It's the if something went wrong that is worrying me.

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CarGirl · 09/07/2009 18:31

argh, bavarians! do you need sick notes from the dr for school? Swine fle & 3 days off school to not look suspicious - you could do 2 the day before and 2 the day after?

Nighbynight · 09/07/2009 18:45

oooh swine flu brilliant
Unfortunately they are not panicking about it here.

I think that any excuse is going to be a loser, actually, including childrens health. I will just look like a lame duck.

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CarGirl · 09/07/2009 18:47

I meant take them out of school and take them with you and use flu as an excuse to school. Perhaps once you've turned up with dc in tow they will let you go home after the first day?

Don't suppose your oder dc would like to board in the UK?

kathyis6incheshigh · 09/07/2009 18:50

Children's health is never a good excuse if you're a woman - if you're a man, however, it makes you look super-caring and wonderful

Nighbynight · 12/07/2009 21:47

Hi
thank you for your answers. well, I have tried to forget about the problem over the weekend - usually a good strategy.
Had a long chat with another of my bosses, (I have too many of them!), who is sympathetic and understands the situation, but can't do anything.
I discovered that another colleague has refused to do the camping bit - so at the moment, my preferred solution is to do the same and say that I will do the days, and drive home for the 2 nights.
Hopefully I can stress my responsibility, rather than childrens health.
Also, I am thinking of booking a night in a guest house on top of a mountain for next weekend, hoping that the children won't react with a huge outbreak of Mummys-neglecting-us bad behaviour if they have something to look forward to.

cargirl, my children would love to go back to the UK! Ive just been looking at houses for sale, in the same area as where we used to live, near you. The asking prices in our road are only about 10% down on what they were 2 years ago!! whats up with sellers? there are obviously loads of mortgage repossessions on the market, are people really paying these prices?

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