can anyone explain in very simple terms bank holidays for part time workers!

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I get 22 days (pro rata 60% as I work 3 days a week, Weds, Thurs, Fri), added to this are the 8 BH's which gives 30 days total (18 PR), my employer has said that every BH that doesn't fall on a Monday or Tuesday I need to put a holiday in but the remaining holidays are mine to take whenever. Does this make sense because it doesn't to me, and if it does could you explain it to me as I feel like I am being diddled out of holidays!

Yes it does make sense - do you really get all 8 BHs or just 60% of them? I will explain in a second post which may take me a while...

Oh sorry, just worked out you're bank holidays are pro rata'd too...

I work tues thurs fri so never get any benefit from the bank holidays but as we also have a rounded up entitlement which includes BH those who usually work a monday have to use hours from their leave entitlement when those days occur but I dont so actually get to use most of my holiday when i want to rather than on prescribed BH.
Does that make any sense?

And I mean 'your' not 'you're'!

That makes perfect sense to me - if you were full time you'd get 22 days of annual leave to use as you like, plus the 8 days of bank holidays, 30 days off in total. But obviously you don't get to choose about the bank holidays.

So what your HR are doing is pr ing the entire holiday entitlement, and then saying that you need to use holiday to cover any bank holidays that fall on your working days. Most years (according to my colleague who has the same) you actually come out ahead on this arrangement

I think that you get the better benefit of getting some extra holiday as you will get your bank holidays pro rata - so as you don't cuurently work b.hols you will get equiv. time off in lieu.

Lucky you - I work Mon/Wed/Fri but because I only work 60% - I only get 60% off on a bank hol Monday so I have to use my holiday hours or owe them extra whenever a bank holiday falls.

It's probably because full timers don't get their bank holiday rolled up into their holiday entitlement, so, they get 22 days to take, plus they get all the bank holidays off.

You're entitled to the same amount of time, pro rata'd. For part timers it is easier to roll it up into the overall holiday entitlement, and then get you to take holiday on a bank holiday you would normally be working on, because....

You are only getting 60% of a bank holiday, so, if you didn't roll them up, on a bank holiday, in order to take the full day off (and not just the 60%) you are entitled to, you would also have to take 40% of a day's holiday to cover it.

On the other hand, if you are not working on bank holidays, you would never get the benefit, but by rolling it in with your leave entitlement, you are guaranteed the same amount of time off.

Oh, I realise now how hard it is to explain.

I manage holiday for part-timers where I am and we do exactly this. It is the fairest way for you - and, as MrsJamesMartin says, tends to work in your favour, as you get to take the time you have earned for bank holidays when you wouldn't have been working anyway, on days when you would.

Absolutely correct - and it means that you get to use 'bank holiday' holidays whenever you want rather than on bank hols.

I don't work Mondays - and this is definitely the better arrangement as those people who work p/t and work Mondays will have to use some of their normal holiday entitlement to cover their bank hols!

thanks everyone, feel better now it sounds like I'll be better not worse off, but it is very hard to get your head round isn't it