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if you were an prospective employer - what would you think of this reason for being sacked from your previous job.............

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 22:02

"I hadn't transferred my TV Licence to my new address"

(4 days after moving into the house and they were away on business with work for 2 1/2 days of that) should add a "must" for the job they were sacked from was owning a TV licence if they had a TV.......

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:19

he's been signed off for 2 weeks, given the length of time they took to sort his disciplinar meeting I can't see them getting an appeal meeting sorted in the next 2 weeks

I questioned the "wiseness" 3 1/2yrs ago of him going back to work for that company, I was never happy with them when he worked for them in one of their other sections. But needs must and all that and he took the first job that came along, which was the sales officer one.

Bloody typical an otherwise perfect work history (not even a verbal warning or "chat" about any of his work) ruined over a fucking TV Licence.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:20

not the car is a company car which they're going to pick up tomorrow.

How long would the sanction likely be for??

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Aimsmum · 28/01/2009 23:23

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:23

Is the union involved?
If not,it needs to be PDQ.
Don't let him go under FAQ, help him through this for the sake of all of you.
Please,get onto the union FAST.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:26

he's not part of a union afaik.

26 weeks - and what's he supposed to live on in the mean time if no-one will employ him?

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:27

He can still get the union involved.
I am telling you, from personal experience that this is a MUST.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:28

I'll ring him tomorrow - a bit late now - and tell him to do that moondog.

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Aimsmum · 28/01/2009 23:29

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:30

YES!!!!!!!
Alone, individuals are fucked.
With the might of the union.
I wnet through hell last year with work.Got union involved and you've never seen things change faster in your life.

Power to the people.

It sounds bloody outrageous what they have done.Remember, he has worked there a good long time (I remember you posting about him starting!). He has a lot of rights.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:34

it seems like a life-time ago he started working there - I remember it so well though, would have been mid-August 2005, the month I was feeding us all on about £15 a week.

I just new something bad had to happen sooner or later, this year has gone far too well so far..........

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:35

So sorry.
You've had it tough.
He must fight this-it could blight his employment record for a long time.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:39

this year had been going reall well so far.

I've found a house (moving this weekend

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:40

Who was dating? You and dh?

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:43

yes, me and DH.

He came over just after new year - very nervous and worried about what he wanted to say - and basically apologised for a whole lot of shit and asked if there was any chance of us trying again or whether I'd moved past that stage.

When he arrived and we were chatting about other stuff I felt like I was chatting to a good friend, by the time he'd got round to finishing what he actually came to say I realised I did still have feelings for him.

And the man that sat there in front of me (and indeed the man who bought me roses last Saturday, and took me out for dinner, and has taken DS3 for a couple of extra days so I can pack without a toddler "helping" etc etc etc) was the man I married all those years ago, and not the man I threw out last year.

Should also add I apologised for some of the shit I did as well.

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:47

Oh that sounds so lovely,it really does.
Fingers crossed for you, all of you FAQ.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:49

yes it is

and then this.....

I will ring him in the morning and insist he appeals/gets union involved etc..........and hope to god I've still got my persuasive skills

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moondog · 28/01/2009 23:52

I will be hounding him through you on MN.
You can't keep a good man down and he always sounds like a top bloke!

G'night.

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FAQtothefuture · 28/01/2009 23:53

thanks moondog

'nite

(and yes he is a good man, not quite sure where that twat I was living with for a few years came from, but the good man is back )

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FAQtothefuture · 29/01/2009 09:20

thanks for you advice last night everyone (we may yet need more but I'll ask if we do).

I've just spoken to him, read out some of your posts, and think that he does see the point of appealing even though it's going to cost him.

I think last night he was still in defiant shock whereas today hell (hopefully) be in a more "proactive" mode.

I can't tell whether he was feeling down from the whole thing or not as I woke him up.

Lucky bastard DS3 was still asleep (in travel cot in his room)

Now why does DS3 never sleep until gone 9am for meeeeeeeeeeeeee???

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fishie · 29/01/2009 09:31

faq i am sure the union will help and they'll know all the procedures etc so your dh will not get mired in it all.

it is monstrously unfair and even if he didn't technically have a licence i just can't see how he could fail on appeal.

v glad to hear you are getting on well

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FAQtothefuture · 29/01/2009 09:38

thank fishie

Yes thank goodness we're getting on well at the moment (well very well actually). But what a thing to be thrown at us at the start of rebuilding our relationship >

suppose I'd better get on and do some more packing, I've done all I can so far for him and sitting moping here while I have no children getting in the way of me packing isn't going to help me get moved this weekend.

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FAQtothefuture · 30/01/2009 08:19

just a little update, I spoke to him last night and he'd rung them to tell them he'd be appealing. So we're making progress. He hadn't spoken to the Union yet, but assured me he was going to (after I stressed how important it was )

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FAQtothefuture · 02/02/2009 14:15

another update...........he's spoken to the Union Rep - who has told him that yes - he does have a case and should definitely appeal, however they can't help him because in his new role he was "officialy" a manager (although had no-one under neath him) and he would need to be a member of the managers union to get their help.

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FAQinglovely · 25/02/2009 12:49

just a quick update for those that care

He had his appeal meeting last Thursday - he spent the majority of it explaining to them why the direct debit for the licence in his name had been going out of my account. (simply reason - we kept separate bank accounts and split the bills - regardless of whose name they were in - so that we both had an equal amount of money left, or not , at the end of the month). They told him that it must have been my licence as I was paying it and that when it was issued it must have just had the wrong name go onto it

Anyhow, he got a letter from them today and he's still fired - and in the letter including that "someone else was paying it" (does it really matter who is paying a bill as long as it's paid?????)

However they have stated the date for termination of employment as the 27th February meaning he should get paid this month (previously he had been fired without notice - as it was classed as Gross Misconduct) which meant that he wouldn't have been paid this month as he was fired on the 27th January (day before payday).

He's not sure he's going to bother taking it to an employment tribunal - I believe he's got 3(?) months to do it if he does. He's applied for JSA and had the meeting there yesterday - apparently the woman he spoke to laughed when he told her why he was fired - and given that the letter they sent him with reasons for firing give the same reasons should his (former) employees actually bother to send a letter to the JSA it's going to say the same thing hopefully he won't be sanctioned for too long.

In the meantime he's looking for a job, and is just going to see what happens with that before making a decision on the tribunal.

elkiedee · 04/03/2009 23:09

I saw a post from you about this on another thread and was so shocked that I had to track this down.

What an outrageous case. I do think it's worth him trying to fight it through an ET, shame he's not a union member. Is it worth him seeing if a no win no fee lawyer would continue taking the case on, given the apparent unreasonableness of this case.

Hope the rekindled relationship is still going ok by the way!

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