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a few question for anyone who is/ has a partner in the POLICE FORCE

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noonar · 10/12/2008 20:27

dh is considering a career change as he's self employed and is being hit hard by the current financial climate.

at the age of 18 he applied to join the police force and didnt get in. 18 years later, he wants to try again to fulfill this ambition and map out a new career for himself.

i am very keen for him to do a job that i know he would love and be really, really good at.

however, i do have a few reservations. in a nutshell, i am very concerned about how shift work would impact on family life.

also, i am a p/t teacher with 2 young school age children. i am just getting to the point in my career/ life as a mum when i would like to think about increasing my hours. having dh doing shift work would rule this out, i think. (does that sound selfish??)

leisure time/ holidays are another issue. i wonder if he could guarantee being allowed time off during the holidays...

what are shift patterns like?

what would it be like being a mature 'probationer'?

sorry... rambling. sorry, so many questions i could ask...

any advice/ info greatly appreciated

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Waltzywotzy · 11/12/2008 21:00

I have a friend who works in CID, very particular about such matters. So I was just thinking out loud. PW

PerkinWarbeck · 11/12/2008 21:08

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Waltzywotzy · 11/12/2008 21:13

No problem, PW, I am paranoid all the time on MN!

PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 11/12/2008 21:15

I shall link this for VS, her DP started in (IIRC) August

MissisBoot · 11/12/2008 21:32

That other advantage to shift work is you get to have random dinners - for example tonight I have had a packet of crisps, yoghurt and leftover slice of orange drizzle cake - perfect and the added bonus of no washing up

But in all seriousness I am now very anal organised and have developed a monthly meal planner in line with all dh's shifts and have calculated when I can double portions so I have a healthy dinner to eat in the evening rather than existing on beans on toast or a bacon sandwich most nights.

MrsMagooo · 11/12/2008 21:42

LOL MissisBoot I also had a packet of crisps & a rice krispie cake for my dinner tonight!

We do very similar here, when I cook something like say a Lasagne I will pop some portions into tubs & pop it in the freezer so that DH can either take it to work on days like today where he's working a late or I can have it when I can't be bothered cooking!

JingleBellsDennySmells · 11/12/2008 21:42

Your DH needs to enquire re the shift pattern where he will be working. We are in Cheshire and DH works a 5 week pattern giving him 2 weekends off during that time. probabtioners up here work exactly the same shift pattern but after 2 years could apply for a job that dosent have night shifts like community teams but they would still have to do lates (normally till 11/12ish)

On the whole DH dosent do dropping off/picking up or any reg childcare as the job can be unreliable and we have found it just easier to keep him out the equation. Lots of childminders are v flexible though, our old one would take from 7am and keep till 8.30pm, ob not on a reg basis.

TBH nights r really not a problem, late shifts can be a pain though as you have to do witching hour by yourself so u just have to be a little more organised.
Keeping the kids quiet at the weekend when they need to sleep can be tricky so we tend to go out if possible.

Technically DH should work 3 xmas's in 5 but he and the other sargeants on his shift tend to work it out quite fairly with leave so he has actually been off the last 3 and this year he is the only one with young kids so he's off again but working new year.

Leave, I think in the last 12 years DH has only had leave cancelled once, that was down in Hertfordshire and there was a massive train crash - fair enough really. He has had shifts changed quite frequently though and will quite often say BTW Im working early not late on Thurs (having said that days off are not changed). Potentially a problem if u r relying on him for childcare.

Overtime is generally optional and some forces pay and some its time owing.

Days off during the week r v handy for covering childcare over school hols and often he will be home if kids r sick.

On the whole its just different and takes a while to get your head round it and work out how your life fits around the working patterns. I love the me time that late shifts bring, I can watch what I want on TV, go on PC uninterrupted, put face mask on etc.

Plenty of people do it but its not 4 everyone you just need to work out if its for u and ur family. Good luck either way.

JingleBellsDennySmells · 11/12/2008 21:43

x-post with missisboot, crisp and chocolate dinners are great

MrsMagooo · 11/12/2008 21:51

The only time I can recall that all leave was cancelled with no exception was a well televised "incident" a few Xmas ago in which all officers were required to do extra duties!

LilMatchGirlInVictorianSqualor · 12/12/2008 09:20

Hi there.
DP started his training in august (as Peachy said).

Many things change force to force but I can tell you what Thames Valley do.

DP applied then waited about 5 months to get through the papersift (the hardest part by all accounts) then another 3 months before assessment centre, then he had two physical/medical exams, and background checks. He was given his appointed station just under a year of applying and that is very quick.

His wage is the same as here but as he is TVP he gets £2k pa extra, in the met they get £4k pa extra.

Training isn't residential any more unless you live further away from your training centre than would travel to your allocated station, then you will have a choice between being paid travel expenses or living in force housing.

For training at TVP they do 6 weeks at college, 3 weeks PDU (working alongside a constable tutor at a local station), 4 weeks college, 4 weeks PDU, 4 weeks college, 4 weeks PDU then fit for independent patrol.

DP's shifts are either 8-6, 10-8, 12-8, 4pm-midnight or 8pm-4am. He gets one full weekend in three off, does one night shift, and a full weekend of days. He gets a full three rest days after one late (4-12) and two night (8pm-4am) shifts. This won't change much when he is off PDU. He is given his shifts 3 months in advance. Apparently they are quite flexible if time off is needed as long as you give enough notice and don't take the piss.

IMO, night shifts aren't too bad, I quite like them and as DP is in at about 5am he sleeps til about 1/2ish and then we have the day together.

There is absolutely no guarantee that you will finish at the time you're meant to though. DP's first late shift was meant to finish at midnight, so I waited up for him. I went to bed at 3am, he got in at 4:30 but that can't be helped, he had to book in some firearms which means a specialist unit had to be there.

Holidays, well, as has already been said, you can book the time off but if something happens they can cancel it with hardly any notice.

I find it easier with his shifts than I did when he was on a 9-5 because he normally has 1-2 days a week off, or he is home for the morning so he can do more in the day than he could previously.

Being a mature probationer wouldn't be an issue at all afaic. In DP's intake around 50% of them are older people with parents, the other 50% are young and single.

Family wise it can be fab, I mean you won't get job security like it elsewhere, and there are a large number of insurance plans taken out incase of any problems, if DP gets injured he can get two years off full pay for example. Pension is good, wage is quite good, DP's fed rep is supposed to be really helpful in absolutely anything that you may need help with. In short, the police look after their own, but you have to work the hours and do the job.

If you can work round the shifts with a long enough notice period and have people that can step in on emergency then I would say it won't be a problem, but he has to get in first!

LilMatchGirlInVictorianSqualor · 12/12/2008 09:25

Sorry, meant to be more clear, DP has to do one weekend night shift. But the nights are worked so you do a late day, a late then 2 nights. Followed by three rest days.

My dreaded shifts are the full day weekend shifts as he leaves at 7am and doesn't get home until 7pm, and that's if he doesn't stay later. With 3 children doing breakfast, lunch, dinner, bath AND bed alone it can be very stressful and then DP gets in and is tired as hell so he falls asleep by about 9pm when I'm desperate for some chilling out time together.

noonar · 15/12/2008 14:14

just checking back in to say thanks again folks . been off line for a few days... i couldnt have hoped for a more informative, supportive response
xx

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