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Am I being unfair about an employee needing a catch-up day?

143 replies

StartupRepair · Today 00:28

I have a member of my team who seems to make a huge production out of this. He announces that he will spend his first day back reading and catching up on his email..While away he has an out of office on and anything urgent or important comes to me or other team members so there should be nothing serious in his inbox. Just updates. I find it really annoying and don't know if it is just a low level irritation that I have with him. I do find him a bit pompous and he tends to over engineer a lot of work.
I am a fast reader and can skim lots of emails in a short time and identify what is important. But maybe it is unfair to judge him as he has different skills.
He is returning on Monday after 4 weeks leave and I already a bit annoyed that his first day back will be kind of lost.
Open to opinions on whether I am an unfair manager to judge this.

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BibbityBoppityTwo · Today 00:32

I think one catch up day after four weeks off is perfectly reasonable, to be honest.

Boreded · Today 00:33

YABVU. Massively unfair. After my 3 week holiday I come back to approx 750 emails (or more) and mandatory training. I have to review progress on anything that I have left to others, and make sure nothing important has been missed.

ClaudettedeBeauvoir · Today 00:33

BibbityBoppityTwo · Today 00:32

I think one catch up day after four weeks off is perfectly reasonable, to be honest.

I agree.

Ansells · Today 00:34

Of course someone needs to spend time catching up on their first day back. Depends how long they were off in the first place, but after four weeks a day to catch up is definitely reasonable.

EBearhug · Today 00:35

4 weeks is often a lot of mail. Some people are more efficient at prioritising and skim reading. I would also expect to be told about anything urgent/major on Teams or in person, or to get chased about that mail on the 13th about the important issue.

But it also depends on the role and his duties.

Can you compromise on half a day for first sift and sort? Then he can catch up on the rest in between actual work.

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avilsdedvocate · Today 00:39

Yanbu. Half a day is perhaps reasonable. But keeping out of office on is not.

avilsdedvocate · Today 00:41

Read it wrong. So if everything urgent or otherwise is dealt with, it should be an hour max.. if youre his manager pull him up on it

LilyLemonade · Today 00:43

YANBU.
Obviously most people need time to get up to speed when they return to the office but I wouldn't expect anyone to refuse to make themselves available for other work because of it.

StartupRepair · Today 00:46

Obviously I realise he will need some catch up time and I will also meet with him to bring him up to speed. My question is whether a whole day is excessive (I think it is).

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BibbityBoppityTwo · Today 00:49

I don’t think it is at all. I’ve always been given the day after a similar amount of time off. It just helps to be able to take your time catching up and getting your head back into the work space. Is it really going to cause a major problem to give him a day?

calflions · Today 00:50

I think a whole day excessive. Might be that ship has sailed this time, but next time he goes on leave (Xmas?) you talk beforehand about how he will leave instructions for urgent things to be flagged, ie..leaving a protocol in his OOO to ask people to flag issues with time deadlines as red flags.
Or the person handling each of his projects while he is away has a half hour catch up with him on the first morning back, allowing him to prioritise.

I would expect the first days back to be divided between tackling the most urgent issues, attending standing meetings, and gradually working through the backlog.

Huckleberries · Today 00:52

I’m sure some of the posters are here haven’t read your post properly

Given what you describe, no he absolutely doesn’t need a day. Two hours, maybe.

but equally, it’s your job to stop him from over engineering things as you call it. I read that as code for “create work out of nothing in order to stretch it out and claimed to be busier”.

Jellycatspyjamas · Today 00:57

After 4 weeks a day is fair enough. Even redirecting people doesn’t mean there won’t be anything important in his email and he’ll need to check what’s been picked up by someone else and what needs his attention. If it were two weeks I’d expect him to be up to speed by lunchtime bit 4 weeks is a long time to be out of the loop.

pregnantprayingmantis · Today 00:59

As a manager I wouldn’t allow my team an entire day on that basis. Depending on the role and level of responsibility I’d expect them to hit the ground running first thing (some of my team would be checking in on the Sunday night or keeping an eye on things while on leave but I would never enforce it people do deserve holiday). I work in a highly competitive fast paced environment with high staff expectations. This is a huge indulgence. Schedule a call for 10am, brief them and tell them to get cracking. I would also question a four week holiday, if that length of leave was granted it would be on the provisor they get straight back into it.

BountifulPantry · Today 01:34

4 weeks? Has he been on paternity?

Switcher · Today 01:38

He sounds annoying..it's not actually unreasonable but the pompous announcement of it is. When I come back I balance catching up with looking at what's happening right now and what needs to get done. I don't make some big announcement about it....

Franjipanl8r · Today 01:49

4 weeks leave! Surely a single day of catchup is fine after almost a month off work.

IAmKerplunk · Today 02:17

I needed a day of catch up after 2 weeks off because despite my boss telling me things in my absence would have been dealt with you can bet there would be something in an email somewhere that hadn’t been dealt with and my boss would blame me. Obviously I fitted it in and sometimes took 2 days to catch up whilst also dealing with current issues but I made it very clear on my online diary what I was doing when catching up.

Icecreamisthebest · Today 04:08

I think a morning is sufficient. For 4 weeks away I would expect that his work would have been allocated to someone else and his time would be better spent having 15 minute to half hour meetings with them to get him back up to speed. And from what you say it sounds like that is the case.

I'd be saying something like - spend an hour checking your in box and then come and chat to me about x project, then Tina about y project and Zoe about z project. That should be enough to get you up to speed and you can move on to abc this afternoon.

LeaveMeBee · Today 04:14

What would you rather they are doing?

Because surely reading emails/anything related to work, IS work..so....???

When I saw the title of your post, I thought it was going to be an employee had asked for a Mental Health day to catch up with life/home chores before they had a breakdown. (Which I still thought was valid!)

You're being an AH.

LeaveMeBee · Today 04:17

Icecreamisthebest · Today 04:08

I think a morning is sufficient. For 4 weeks away I would expect that his work would have been allocated to someone else and his time would be better spent having 15 minute to half hour meetings with them to get him back up to speed. And from what you say it sounds like that is the case.

I'd be saying something like - spend an hour checking your in box and then come and chat to me about x project, then Tina about y project and Zoe about z project. That should be enough to get you up to speed and you can move on to abc this afternoon.

This.

My ex worked in a job where time off wasn't beneficial, because he'd go back to such a shitstorm that it completely ruined him. It was a break/overload/burnout cycle and took a vicious turn on his wellbeing and in-turn our family life.
Horrible to be in a job that is so demanding, that timeoff causes you more stress on return.

concertinacornflake · Today 04:17

StartupRepair · Today 00:46

Obviously I realise he will need some catch up time and I will also meet with him to bring him up to speed. My question is whether a whole day is excessive (I think it is).

What is it you think he should be doing on that day that he isn't?

If an employee gets their work done to the required standard overall, the way they organise it doesn't matter.

concertinacornflake · Today 04:22

Icecreamisthebest · Today 04:08

I think a morning is sufficient. For 4 weeks away I would expect that his work would have been allocated to someone else and his time would be better spent having 15 minute to half hour meetings with them to get him back up to speed. And from what you say it sounds like that is the case.

I'd be saying something like - spend an hour checking your in box and then come and chat to me about x project, then Tina about y project and Zoe about z project. That should be enough to get you up to speed and you can move on to abc this afternoon.

This is micromanagement. It's not normal to manage a person's time this way unless they are under performance management.

FrippEnos · Today 04:34

You haven't said what the job is, how many emails that he is likely to come back or whether something is likely to get missed as presumably and emails that you recieve are sent by clients/custmoers once they are made aware by his OOH message.

Are you prepared to take responsibilty for anything that does get missed or would you blame him for not seeing it?

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