Annual leave part time

[Mondayneverends]

I work 20 hours per week 4 hours each day Monday-Friday. Full time annual leave is 25 days. I’ve been told I will get 13.5 days (full time week is 37.5). In previous jobs my annual leave was in hours, so I would get 100 hours. Is it better to book time off in hours or days? I’m a bit confused by it.

If you're working 5 days per week I'd expect you to get 25 days leave.

Ask them to explain the calculation to you.

100 hours = 13.5 days at 7.4 hours per day, so that does seem to be what they've done. I'd have thought the admin was easier for everyone if they call it 25 4 hour days though.

If you work 5 days per week then you should get 25 days leave

You need to push back on this.
You either only need to book half a days leave for each day you want off (which means you will get slightly more leavecthan a FT employee) or they have screwed you over and you need 25 (short) days holiday a year - unless you book in hours.

The current arrangement works in hours, but not in days. It needs clarifying and maybe amending.

The government holiday calculator says you are entitled to 28 days or in hours 112 hours , employer can decide if this includes Bank hols or not.

As you work 5 days a week you should get the same number of days annual leave as full time staff except your 'day' will be 4 hours and theirs will be longer.

Why is everyone in HR so crap? If you work the same hours every day you get 25 of "your" days. What is hard about that?

I'm guessing OPs full time entitlement is 25 days plus bank holidays (33 days in total) whereas the minimum entitlement on the government is 28 days which can include bank holidays.

They are mixing up days and hours, so yes your leave shoukd be worked out in hours. 13.5 x 7.5 =101.25. It’s 53% of 25 full days, and 20hrs is 53% of 37.5hrs. So in theory they are correct. But you only take 4hrs off for each day off you take. So in actual days away from the office, you also get 25. It’s just yours are shorter.

Tell them it needs to be given to you in hours, not days.

Legally you are entitled to 20 days + bank holidays so 28 days. Do you get 25 + BHs?

Excluding BH entitlement you should still get 25 days holiday regardless of you work a half day or not. I also work 20hrs per week but uneven hours over 4 days, my entitlement is 38 days inc BH. Its worked out in hours so- 20hr/ 5 days = 4hrs a day (average) x 38 days annual leave= 152 hrs per year.

Either they calculate your working pattern in day and thus your holiday in days or both need to be calculated in hours. They can’t chop and change between the two.

Yes, I get BHs on top pro rata. Full time employees get 33 days including Bank Holidays.

You should get 100 hrs a/l plus 32 hrs for bank holidays.

Sorry, I should have said I’ve changed jobs. New employer are saying I get 13.5 days. I’m used to booking my time off in hours. I guess it’s because I work the same hours each day. I just want to make sure it’s correct.

are you contracted to work 4 hours a day, set hours per week rather than having a 20 hour contract with flexi hours that you book the hours where available?

You get 13.5 days but it should only cost you about 2.5 days to have a week off.

But it would be better to work in hours as your WTE is around 0.55?

But I agree with PPs, this is very basic stuff for an employer and HR. There's even calculators online if they're unsure.

You need to clarify what they mean by a 'day' as your day is only 4 hours whereas full time staff have a day that is 7.5 hours long. You are entitled to 25 + 8 of your days as holiday which would be 132 hours.

If they say you can only have 13.5 days then they are drastically short changing you unless they have worked out some weird calculation where you book ½ a day to take 1 of your days which makes it overcomplicated (and still doesnt add up)

I’m guessing they’ve given you 13.5 FULL days so when you book one of your 4 hour shift that would be just over 1/2 a day off your annual leave allowance
so you would have the equivalent of roughly 26 ish shifts off so it does sound right

really should be done in hours

That would be the same as a full timer so not correct.

OP works .533 of a full timer so should get 13.25 days and they’ve rounded up to 13.5.

This is correct... you get the same number of days annual leave as your full time colleagues.

No, you are wrong. OP works 5 days a week so gets the same entitlement as full timers except her day is 4 hours long and a full timers day is 7.5 hours long

Wrong, its 25 days. OP works 5 days a week so she'd still get 25 days. She gets 25 x 4 hrs full-timers get 25 x 7.5hrs.

I think the poster means 25 of the OPs days, so 25 x 4 hours. That would be correct.

I work in HR/Payroll & agree that you should be getting 25 days (plus bank holidays).

working holiday out in hours works if someone works irregular hours each week. One day of your holiday should reflect your usual daily pay (including regular overtime/bonuses/commissions)

My company does all annual leave in hours, not days, so makes it easier. I’m guessing you only need to take off4 hours to have a day off or 20 hours to get a full week off so you still have 5 weeks off. Sounds right to me.