Handing notice in - how much notice to give?

[Remmy123]

Hello - handing my notice in this week which I am very anxious about as my boss is toxic and won't be very pleasant about it, but that's another matter.

I was never given an employment contract when I joined 3 years ago (everyone else has one apart from me)

I asked for it twice and never had one given to me so I left it.

I only ever signed an offer letter which doesn't state my notice period. Just my hours and job title and pay.

anyway - how much notice should I be giving am I right in thinking it's statutory so a week for each year served? Thanks very much

No contract? Give a week

if you want longer, get yourself a copy of the contract and use whatever is in that

I mean you could leave tomorrow
but then… they wouldn’t pay you
no contact after all
it works both ways

Thank you

if I ask for copy of the contract it 'apparently' says 3 months so I won't do that

You’ve been here before haven’t you?!

Just hand in, say no contract but out of respect for the team you’ll give a week.

notice period is often frequency of pay. So if you’re paid weekly - 1 weeks notice, paid monthly - 1 month.

if you hate it and can afford it, a day!

if you love it and are feeling generous towards your colleagues, offer to help recruit your replacement and do a handover.

if you’ve got a new job, when do they want you to start?

I think since there's no contract you don't have to give any? I'd go with a week or a month depending on what you want

Yes a year ago I thought I was going to get offered a job as final x2 but I didn't get it!! But I've defo got this one now 😃

I couldn't find my last thread

Thank You - I've told new job a month notice but I quite fancy a week off before I start

I'm just feeling on edge as my boss is very toxic and fear she will make my life very hard so wanted to check everything before I tell her.

I like this.

Also, OP, make sure you send it in writing, so there's no confusion about end dates etc.

With not contract then only a week when you leave. With other job offer tell them you are available as you haven’t signed a contract with the current job.

So following up on this

handed notice in - offered 4 weeks (week for every year and one for good will)

they say I should be compromising on the 3 months and give 6 weeks because that is the standard terms of the company and they will send me a draft contract if I like!! I said I can't compromise on something I didn't know about?! (Not on intranet no staff handbook etc)

I've had no sleep and I can't eat because I think it's all going to get quite toxic

new company have offered a great package - old company have never given me a pay rise so I dont want to mess new company around.

am I right to stick to my guns on the 4 weeks? I am dealing with someone who can never be wrong 😑

Stick to your guns - you could literally go tomorrow and there's nothing they could do about it because you are not contracted. Focus on getting out of there as swiftly as you can. Do you have any holiday to take?

Thanks - I'm such a people pleaser I feel so bad

I have 2 days holiday to take but not sure I can take that as it starts again in January

Statutory notice to resign is 1 week. Thats all you need to give.

Statutory for your employer to dismiss you is 1 week per year (up to 12).

Any holiday accrued and untaken should be paid when you leave.

Thanks I thought I had to give them statutory too

I’d be tempted to say “put me on gardening leave and I’ll stay for 6 weeks. It’s that or I leave next week. You never gave me a contract, so it’s your problem.”

Dont let them take the piss. They have FAFOd here. Pretty sure they know they can guilt trip you into staying longer so don’t let them. The worse that can happen is you stop working and they stop paying you.

You do. But statutory notice to resign is different to statutory notice to dismiss!

Thanks so much

yep defo felt guilty earlier like I was leaving then in the lurch but also realised I missed out on several benefits as that was outlined in the contract which I never got because they 'forgot'.

They still haven't confirmed my leaving date asking me to work 6 weeks as a compromise and it will make no different to my new company if they have to wait a bit longer for me!! They Really no consideration for me at this point.

Started by to feel sick with stress - they keep saying I need to give at least 6 weeks as it's usually 3 months

I keep saying I cant because I didn't know what it was and have gone with advice given to me and a month is it

I also think they knew I had no contract it's very strange to have to ask for one twice and then met with a surprise when I hand my notice in

If you are paid weekly it’s 1 week, monthly 1 month unless your contract says otherwise by law

Just put it writing that your last working day is X and you will finish at y time.

What are they going to do if you don't do the 6 weeks, come and drag you out of your house?

They are just pissed off you are leaving.

Is there any holiday you need to use up that you can take for the last 2 weeks if you must?

I would say:
I have never signed any contract that specified the notice period. Statutory guidelines state i must give a week's notice. I am giving one months notice, which is more than required. My last date of employment will be <date>."

https://www.gov.uk/handing-in-your-notice/giving-notice

It's possible they could turn round and say, "in that case, we have to give one week's notice for each year you've served, so your last date will be <today + 3 weeks>" though I assume with them arguing the point, that won't now make any difference.

I would make sure I had taken home any personal items and copied off anything online, in case they decide you shoukd be on gardening leave.

Ultimately, if you just don't turn up and have handed back your kit, what can they do? They could sue, but I can't see it would be worth their while, and if you've got a copy of your contract where it doesn't state 3 months notice, it would be difficult to argue their case.

Why do you want to stay for 4 weeks when it is so toxic?
Just give them 1 week and be done with it 🤔
Surely you don't want to keep going in for 3 more weeks than necessary?

You can also call ACAS for firm guidance given no contract, then download Chat GPT App tell it the situation and ask it to draft you a firm no compromise email to send.

Exactly this!!