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Dismissed My Job Due To Absence linked to my Disability

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mummytippy · 06/10/2025 10:38

Apologies for my lengthy post. I added a post (in May) regarding wanting advice for my employer to look to make reasonable adjustments for me due to my disability of hearing loss and Tinnitus. I had been employed by my ex employer 22 months. I had gone of work last November due to work related stress but was also waiting on an Audiology referral to come through. My employer was aware of all of my health issues. I had an attendance and wellbeing review (AWR) in May and was told I could discuss appropriate headsets at my next AWR which was scheduled for 18/6. I did contact the RNID and Tinnitus UK so that I could gather as much knowledge as I could prior to this. Before the AWR in June I had also bumped in to a colleague who has a similar hearing issue to me and he had recommended the headset he wears and sent me a link for it which I forwarded to my team leader. Just before the AWR, I then received an invitation for a capability assessment/attendance review to take place on 23/6. I contacted my TL and she said that it might not go ahead. It would depend on the outcome of the AWR with her. I had a fit note with a return to work date of 14/7 with recommendations from my GP. On the 18/6 I attended the AWR and tried to discuss my RTW but it was like the tone had completely changed. I took with me a proposed phased RTW plan to discuss, information from the RNID, Tinnitus UK and also evidence I had been speaking with an Employment Support Advisor via Talking Therapies but it all seemed to fall flat and was met with no interest. I was dumbfounded. I asked my TL to discuss my proposed phased RTW plan emphasising it would need to meet with her approval but she was not interested. She was really quiet. The note taker during the AWR was also a TL I knew (but not well) and he asked me questions which I felt were hostile. The whole experience was awful. I felt completely ganged up on. I did manage to show my white noise sound support and show how it sits behind my ear. The reasonable adjustments I asked for were: to sit somewhere quite on ‘in office days’ and for ad-hoc additional health breaks to adjust/remove my sound support. These were agreed to verbally. Where I raised the question about the link to the headset and the link I’d sent my TL, she said that she had been unable to follow the link and she asked why I had not just bought one. I explained that we were due to discuss headsets at this AWR. there was a cool response, my proposed phased RTW plan was merely photocopied and I was told the Capability/Attendance Review Hearing would still be going ahead. At this point in time I had 2 further medical appointments to still attend. One was my final session of CBT therapy due to happen the day of the hearing (23/6) and the other was with the Audiologist on 20/6 (rescheduled from 30/5 due to the Audiologist being ill). This was a follow up appointment to see how I was getting on with the sound support. Through my employer I had private medical cover. I had spoken with them at the end of May and a report was compiled. The report stated I have a disability and that my employer should allow me to trial a RTW after all my medical appointments were completed.
as I hadn’t like the time of the AWR and the Attendance Hearing was still going to go ahead, I sent a letter to my TL requesting a reasonable adjustment for the 2 requests above. This was never acknowledged. On top of this, when the notes from the AWR meeting were sent to me, they were inaccurate and incomplete. I replied to the email containing the Tale notes with my version of the notes asking for them to be recompiled. This was not done before the hearing. I had joined the Union but too late for them to represent me but they were able to give me basic advice which was if I wasn’t happy with the notes I needed to make this clear but I could attend the hearing to discuss my return to work. Unfortunately I didn’t receive a reply from the Union representative until after the hearing but the morning of the hearing I did send the hearing manager an email to ask her if it could please be rescheduled and why. She declined and because in the invite it had said that a decision on my employment could be made in my absence I felt I had no choice but to attend. My final session of CBT took place and ended an hour before the hearing. I did have a colleague attend and take notes. The hearing was a hideous experience. The hearing manager was very dismissive of my health issues and seemed to have an issue with my proposed phased RTW plan. I emphasised I was not happy with the notes from the AWR and that the RTW was a proposal. From the audiology appointment on the 20/6 the audiologist had put a new program on the device which was a hearing aid function and this was a significant improvement for both my hearing and Tinnitus. I was advised to have a period of ‘habituation’ to get used to this so explained this. In relation to the CBT my practitioner had advised a period of stabilisation following this (as she had also recommended I have some bereavement counselling too). I explained this and I must point out the final reports were not available at this time as still being typed up by the health professionals. I was just completely unheard. The hearing manager had also still been sending additional things into the appendices for this hearing on the 20/6 which was just one working day before the hearing (as a Friday) so I felt everything was rushed. The hearing manager ended the hearing at it was agreed I would speak with my GP to see if I could return to work sooner than 14/7 so I had agreed I would seek their guidance due to the recommendations above from the Audiologist, CBT practitioner and the companies healthcare provider which stated phased RTW at beginning of July after all appointments completed. About and hour after the meeting the hearing manager phoned me and asked if I could RTW on 30/6 and she would put 24/6 through to 27/6 through as annual leave. As I was away from 24/6 because my boyfriend had booked a surprise short break for me as I’d had a rough time and he knew I did not want to take any further time off work after returning, the earliest I could see my GP was on 30/6. I assured her I would seek their guidance on 30/6 and update her as soon as possible. I felt very pressured and told her this. I did this on 1/7 sending a revised fitnote in with a RTW of 7/7 with my GPs recommendations in the comments which included the habituation period and the stabilisation period and details of a phased return to work. I also added that I was open to speaking with my TL to discuss the plan for the following week during the course of that week. She acknowledged receipt, said she was still reviewing my case and that she would be in touch on 3/7 with her decision. I had logged in on my work laptop through the week, reading emails and preparing myself to return. On 3/7 I received her decision which was to dismiss me. She stated I had further delayed my return to work. I was distraught. I feel like I have been punished. I appealed the decision but the outcome remained the same. The hearing manager of the Appeal Hearing was a Customer Service Manager so I feel this wasn’t really appropriate either as no HR / Occupational Health element. I am now going through the Early Conciliation process with ACAS. I would like reinstatement as I do not feel I should have lost my job. My boyfriend (we do not live together) works for the same company (it is where we met) and I just feel completely isolated now as this has made things very awkward. I feel I have lost my career. My colleagues (our colleagues) who became friends now feel awkward. I’m now unemployed, obviously have outgoings and have gone from being in a secure position to the opposite and where I had improved my mental health to return to work, this has deteriorated again due to what has happened. If anyone could please advise me as I am so upset about all of this. TIA.

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mummytippy · 06/10/2025 10:46

Sorry typo! ‘’As I hadn’t liked the tone at the AWR’’.

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Peoplepleaserincrisis · 06/10/2025 10:51

Sorry, bit confused by the timeline. You say you went off last November, were you then signed off until the following July or were you back in during that time?

It certainly sounds like they haven't handled the reasonable adjustments very well if they couldn't even source a headset (which they seem to have done for your other colleague). All sounds very stressful but in your position I'm not sure I'd want to work for the company going ahead anyway given how much bad blood now exists between you. What was their actual reason given for dismissal?

dairydebris · 06/10/2025 10:54

Thats quite long, but I didn't see the reason they gave for dismissing you?

DancefloorAcrobatics · 06/10/2025 11:01

I assume you were under 2 years of employment and had a fit notice for a considerable amount of the time?

What are your companies policies in regards to fit notes. Also are your requested RA actually reasonable? Are there quiet areas for you to work in during office hours? Were you told to order your own headset previously? Is HR involved?

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:31

@DancefloorAcrobatics The company says within its Attendance Management Policy and Procedure that you should keep your TL up to date with fit notes which I did. I always answered calls and returned messages. I had 6 months of absence and had AWRs each month of which attended them all. One had to be postponed. The only HR is via Healthcare RM who I also spoke to independently as well as the company having 2 medical reports done, Dec 2024 and May 2025. With regard to the headset, the company were meant to supply it via DSE it was just a case of working together to source one. My reasonable adjustments were agreed to verbally but the actual formal letter was not acknowledged. I did already have a reasonable adjustment in place for panic attacks which I’d submitted in March 2024 and this was actioned. Yes there are quiet areas to work in the office. There are meeting rooms. My employment date was 29/8/23 to 3/7/25. My absences at the business were 19/1/24 to 8/4/24 and then 25/1/24 to 3/7/25. I had a fit note to return on 7/7 and was dismissed days before. On my work laptop I saw the day after I was dismissed I had been booked in on the rota as a phased returner on 7/7. All of the previous AWRs were focussed on my return and I did everything in my power medically to make it happen.

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dairydebris · 06/10/2025 11:36

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:31

@DancefloorAcrobatics The company says within its Attendance Management Policy and Procedure that you should keep your TL up to date with fit notes which I did. I always answered calls and returned messages. I had 6 months of absence and had AWRs each month of which attended them all. One had to be postponed. The only HR is via Healthcare RM who I also spoke to independently as well as the company having 2 medical reports done, Dec 2024 and May 2025. With regard to the headset, the company were meant to supply it via DSE it was just a case of working together to source one. My reasonable adjustments were agreed to verbally but the actual formal letter was not acknowledged. I did already have a reasonable adjustment in place for panic attacks which I’d submitted in March 2024 and this was actioned. Yes there are quiet areas to work in the office. There are meeting rooms. My employment date was 29/8/23 to 3/7/25. My absences at the business were 19/1/24 to 8/4/24 and then 25/1/24 to 3/7/25. I had a fit note to return on 7/7 and was dismissed days before. On my work laptop I saw the day after I was dismissed I had been booked in on the rota as a phased returner on 7/7. All of the previous AWRs were focussed on my return and I did everything in my power medically to make it happen.

What was the reason given for your dismissal?

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:37

@dairydebris I was ultimately dismissed for poor attendance. For having a ‘longer period of time off than normal’ and I was seen to be further delaying my return to work despite having a further appointment with my GP and planning to return on 7/7 instead of 14/7.

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Jellybunny56 · 06/10/2025 11:37

6 months of absence in essentially 2 years of employment would trigger most things OP, what actually was the reason given for dismissal?

AphroditesSeashell · 06/10/2025 11:38

So you've been employed for 22 months and been absent for 19.5 months of that time? (19/1/24 to 8/4/24 = 2.5 months) and 25/1/24 to 3/7/25 (17 months 1 week)

If that's accurate, then I think it's amazing they've kept you on for this long! Having a disability does not mean they can't get rid of you, it means they have to make reasonable adjustments, which they did.
The fact you delayed a doctors appointment for a break away (terrible choice) is a legitimate demonstration that you were not doing everything in your power to RTW and therefore, they have met their obligations and can terminate your employment.

SoScarletItWas · 06/10/2025 11:42

My employment date was 29/8/23 to 3/7/25. My absences at the business were 19/1/24 to 8/4/24 and then 25/1/24 to 3/7/25.

I’m assuming that’s a typo and you came back on 08/4/24 and went off on 25/01 2025?

So 3 months off in 2024 and 6 months off in 2025?

I agree that delaying the GP appointment because you were going on holiday was not a good move.

ChaChaChaChanges · 06/10/2025 11:45

I think that it should read 25/11/2024 - OP says in her first post that she was off from November.

If so, that’s 4 months off in 2024, and 6 months off in 2025. 10 months out of 22 months.

dairydebris · 06/10/2025 11:47

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:37

@dairydebris I was ultimately dismissed for poor attendance. For having a ‘longer period of time off than normal’ and I was seen to be further delaying my return to work despite having a further appointment with my GP and planning to return on 7/7 instead of 14/7.

Is it possible someone saw a post on sm of you on your weekend away?

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:48

@Peoplepleaserincrisis The timeline is I went off on 25/11/24 and had fit notes through to 7/7/25 but was a dismissed on 3/7/25. My referrals for CBT and Audiology took a while to come through as I wanted to go through the NHS. I communicated openly at all times. There were times my TL said to me she felt I was not ready to return and told me to focus on my recovery. She actually applied to Group Income Protection Insurance to contact me (as I was on SSP). GIP is only available if your sickness period looks to exceed 12 months which I knew it was never going to reach. This was March this year so would have meant they were not expecting me back until after November this year.

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SpigTheFish · 06/10/2025 11:49

That's a poor attendance record op. Have you always been ill or are these health issues new?

Bobiverse · 06/10/2025 11:49

Do you really believe you are suitable for that job? You were barely there before going off sick, back for a bit then off sick again and you delayed going back for a holiday.

Why did you actually need so much time off? Work related stress, when you’d barely been there? That tells me that the job really doesn’t suit you. Some jobs just aren’t suitable.

Your hearing issues would have been sorted quite easily if you just got the headset. It didn’t need to be the big deal you made it into. They agreed the extra breaks that you needed to manage the hearing as well.

But, you were off sick half the time you worked there. Find a job which doesn’t drive you away due to stress.

newworki · 06/10/2025 11:50

It doesn’t sound like the job is a good fit for you, I think you are lucky to have been kept so long tbh.

LIZS · 06/10/2025 11:50

If your attendance has been so low it seems unlikely you had established much of a career to lose. Was the wr stress separate to the hearing loss? At what point were you aware of it? Your grounds for reinstatement are discrimination but it seems as if anyone with such high absence would be dismissed. Could you really have returned earlier had your adjustments been met? Most would attend work around appointments and perhaps even funded the relevant headset or via Access 2 Work to enable it. Has your time off been paid in full or ssp?

Bobiverse · 06/10/2025 11:51

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:48

@Peoplepleaserincrisis The timeline is I went off on 25/11/24 and had fit notes through to 7/7/25 but was a dismissed on 3/7/25. My referrals for CBT and Audiology took a while to come through as I wanted to go through the NHS. I communicated openly at all times. There were times my TL said to me she felt I was not ready to return and told me to focus on my recovery. She actually applied to Group Income Protection Insurance to contact me (as I was on SSP). GIP is only available if your sickness period looks to exceed 12 months which I knew it was never going to reach. This was March this year so would have meant they were not expecting me back until after November this year.

You had private healthcare. You could have been seen in a matter of weeks. But you chose to use the NHS… to get more months off work?

You’ve shown quite strongly that you did delay your own return.

LIZS · 06/10/2025 11:51

And if you have work health insurance why not use that to speed up appointments?

Namechange73467892 · 06/10/2025 11:52

Sorry but the timeline here is very confusing. Your first reply says you went off in Jan 2024, 4 months after starting, and have been off pretty consistently since, but then your clarification says you went off in December 2024 and remained off until you were dismissed in July 2025. What one is it?

Bobiverse · 06/10/2025 11:52

LIZS · 06/10/2025 11:51

And if you have work health insurance why not use that to speed up appointments?

So she could have longer off.

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:54

@SoScarletItWas It was so awkward. My boyfriend had booked the short break. I could not physically attend the GP for an appointment until Monday 30/6. The break he had booked was abroad and the flight was 09:05 on 24/6 and we returned in the early hours of 28/6 (Saturday). I know it might seem petty now too by Friday was my Non Working Day so the hearing manager would have been booking off 3 days annual leave. At the point he had booked it I was still holding my original fit not which had 14/7 on it for returning to work.

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Tiredofwhataboutery · 06/10/2025 11:55

I’m surprised they kept you on after your first prolonged absence tbh. It sounds mean but it’s a long time to have off. I assume they didn’t want to keep you on beyond the two years as it’d be trickier to get rid of you.

I think possibly it’d be better for you to find a job that’s doesn’t involve phone calls etc.

DiscoBob · 06/10/2025 11:55

You were barely there, half of it you were off. How much longer could they go on employing someone who is only fifty percent likely to be present?

You clearly need a more flexible, less stressful job. I have never heard of an employer keeping someone on for that long with this level of absence, no matter the reason.

They are paying for someone to work, but the work won't be getting done. If everyone did this the whole world would grind to a halt.

newworki · 06/10/2025 11:58

mummytippy · 06/10/2025 11:54

@SoScarletItWas It was so awkward. My boyfriend had booked the short break. I could not physically attend the GP for an appointment until Monday 30/6. The break he had booked was abroad and the flight was 09:05 on 24/6 and we returned in the early hours of 28/6 (Saturday). I know it might seem petty now too by Friday was my Non Working Day so the hearing manager would have been booking off 3 days annual leave. At the point he had booked it I was still holding my original fit not which had 14/7 on it for returning to work.

Why did you prioritise a ‘short break’ with your boyfriend over your health and job though?

The more you post the worse you are coming across here. Personal responsibility should be at play here.