Any NHS managers here? Question about annual leave and sickness

[December78]

I'm fairly new to the NHS and have a question about sickness and annual leave.
I'm currently off sick (been signed off for 4 weeks following injuries I sustained in an accident). However, I have some prebooked annual leave for the week after next.
Question is: if im off sick and my annual leave goes ahead during that time, then I'm still not well enough to work to work after my annual leave, would it count as 1 episode of sick leave or 2?

They way i understand it is, if you’re not back before you AL and you’re still off sick, your AL is sickness so you will be able to take the AL hours another time. Does that make sense?

You annual leave will be cancelled if you are off sick and you can take it another time. Therefore it won’t count as 2 episodes

If your pre booked annual leave falls during the time you will be signed off you should request for this annual leave back to use when you are back to work.

If you are signed off sick for a period that includes prebooked Annual Leave, you contact your manager asap once signed off to have the Annual Leave rescinded and recredited to be taken on a future occasion. The 4 weeks for which you have been signed off is a single continuous period of sickness.

Not an NHS manager. This is just general employment law.

If you have a holiday booked and go away this would be counted as annual leave, any sickness following this would be counted as one period of sickness, these are the rules in the Trust I work at. You’re probably best checking with your manager.

No, it's fine to go away in a holiday while off on sickness absence. This isn't counted as annual leave if you are signed off sick

Ex-NHS HR.

You can use AL during a period of sick leave, but it would then create 2 sickness periods.

We used to require people to take AL if they were going to be away and unable to meet the requirements of the sickness absence policy. Eg on a cruise and unable to stay in touch with managers. Otherwise people would accrue leave, use sick leave for holidays and we’d never see them. It also meant they could top up their pay by taking leave whilst on half pay.

You’ll be running out of sick pay soon though.

It can be if you can’t meet the requirements of the sickness policy for OSP.

Surely it depends how many years service op has re sick pay but I think it depends what your plans are for the annual leave you will get the hours back, but I hope you’re on the road to recovery and are feeling better soon

In my trust, if you’ve booked holiday and you’re off sick and still go on that holiday you don’t get it back.
eg if you’re off for MH you can still go away
if you’re off for something incapacitating and can’t take that holiday then you get it back