Handed Notice In. Management Want to Talk to "see what we can do to keep you".

[Arsenal123]

Hi all

I was struggling at work so I dropped a day about 2 years ago and it worked wonders.

I successfully applied for some training last year which required at least one day per week training time. Work signed a contract with the uni to honour this.
Unfortunately due to staffing I wasn't getting the time but I so wanted to do the training that I came in unpaid to do it.

This was after trying to negotiate some kind of solution. Even the uni sided with work due to clinical demands.

I now resent the fact that I had to do that as others are training in work time or being paid for coming in in their own time.

Management also keep making changes for the worse without consulting clinicians actually doing the job.

They gave me a task last week which involved rejecting a lot of GP work. While I agreed with process in general it was poorly communicated to the GPs and badly implemented. I got into a big argument with senior management and they had a mini breakdown due to the pressure they were under. Later that day I handed in my notice.

I have no stable job to go to but the market for my specialism is favourable currently.
I signed up with a locum agency and completed a shift which went ok.
I have a year's income saved for an emergency.

Management and senior management have been emailing me asking me to re-consider and meet to negotiate.

I am not paid my worth currently and my colleagues do less for a lot more money. I've mainly stayed due to convenience and guilt. There hasn't been a single year in the decade I have worked here when I haven't thought heavily about leaving.

I'm not sure what to do. Everything seems broken. I did all my clinical training here and do feel disloyal leaving but I also resent the conditions and unfairness I have encountered.

Leave. They had their chance to be good employers and make it a great role for you. There will be other better opportunities.

I'd meet them and explain the reasons which have caused you to hand in your notice. If they are willing to change things to your satisfaction, then you have a reason to stay. If not, move on.

Leave, and don't look back. It sounds toxic. I walked from a toxic job a year and a half ago. I'm now in a much better job, with great colleagues, and I'm so much happier. My mental health is much better too.

I had this with a role, I had the meeting just to be able tonsay to them that it was insulting to me that they let things get this far.

You sound prepared for emergencies and dedicated to your profession, I doubt you will struggle to find somewhere better that knows your value.

Tell them the pay you want, the training you wany on a paid basis and anything else.

They can then choose whether they do indeed want to keep you. Then when you achieve that look for another position elsewhere. If they can't or won't meet your demands then wave goodbye.

I would decide exactly what would make the job what you would like it to be, pay, training, hours etc in order for you to be happy to stay. Then lay that down clearly and without emotion and tell them they will need to agree to all of it, in writing, no negotiations from their side, before you consider staying. You have nothing to lose as you seem well prepared to be able to walk away and find a job that you are happier in.

I doubt it will improve - I would leave and do locum work while you look for a better job.

I would definitely tell them why you're leaving, and I would expect them to say, yes, we will definitely make sure you have the time and you will be paid for your time - but then they're going to be hort of staff, and short of resources, and as much as they might want to, things won't change in the end.

I suppose the question is, is this toxicity a national problem that you're going to come up against in any workplace in your specialism or is it specific to this one place? If it's specific to this one place then don't look back but if it's a national issue with this type of work then it might be better to stand your ground and negotiate for a fairer deal where you are, if they can actually resolve your issues.

Cant imagine much will change if you return but will get them out of a hole.

You have walked, stay walked..

Sadly this is about them not you. Recruitment costs a lot of time and money so it may feel like they can't bear to lose you but it's about them. If you have a better offer follow through with your plans.

Have the meeting and explain exactly what you’ve said here. See whether they are willing and able to accommodate any changes you’d like. If they can’t, then go, but at least you will know the job isn’t going to improve, and you will had the satisfaction of telling them exactly why you are leaving. There’s always an outside possibility they can do something to improve things. If you’re moving to a locus post, it will always be there for you if it doesn’t work out.

Write a list of all the things that have been unfair on you, that have caused you considerable stress, and the amount of time you have worked unpaid when others were being paid for their training time.

Write another list of all the things you would want tackled by them before you would be prepared to reconsider your resignation.

Decide how much more in the way of salary/benefits/pension/training would be sufficient to persuade you to stay.

Then, suitably armed with these lists, go and talk to them.