Supply Teacher pay

[atay27]

Hi everyone

I’m to start Primary supply teaching in September

please could you check my calculations?

My rate is £170 a day
deduction of holiday pay makes it £158 a day

If I was on long term cover 5 days a week it would be £790 a week

After deductions of pension, tax, NI
id be coming out with £570 a week

If I work 39 weeks of the year then 570x39 is £22,230 a year

£22,230 divided by 12 months (equal pay each month as I’ll save some for holidays) = £1852.5

obviously that’s IF I get full time work.

please any advice welcome!! I’m hoping I can quit my job to do this! :)
thank you!

Check there’s no umbrella company on these rates! You can end up paying employers NI and the apprenticeship levy if it’s not a PAYE agency. This can take total deductions to nearer 40% of your rate. London rates are often nearer £150 at the moment (though they charge schools a lot) for before deductions

So it’s a PAYE agency and it’s in the North West.

thanks for the advice!

That’s not bad. London is just brutal at the moment for supply

That’s crazy money for London! Are you supplying at the minute?

I’m surprised supply is still a thing and schools aren’t just getting ta3/cover supervisors to cover… at least short term!

£!70 is a vey good day to day rate. I've been on the same rate of £150 p/d for the past 5 years as supply in central London. Schools have no money and are driving down supply costs by using TAs instead of teachers.

Surely if you are deducting holiday pay, you will "earn" for more than 39 weeks.

I'd do the full 170, minus tax etc (do supply get a pension? So you have a student loan to deduct?) Sorry, full 170 x 39 weeks to get an annual pay.
HOWEVER, I think 39 weeks is ambitious. Maybe see if 30 weeks is doable??

I'd be surprised if you get work for the full year and at that rate, unless you are covering a long-term absence.
Also bear in mind wear and tear on car and petrol money. Your work usually dries up at the start of year and at the end and primaries just do not have the budget now, so be careful what your agency tells you.
Agents lie - to both their employees and to schools - their focus is how many teacher days they get to meet their targets - so they'll send you wherever, whenever, doing God knows what they've promised to get that day ( school will be being charged up from £230 a day for them to get their commission, which is why schools cannot afford supply rates).
Long term assignments will save you but then you're back to what all that entails but with a poorer pension.
If you are hoping for £1800 a month, you might be better doing Cover Supervision directly but insist on being paid at the top of that support staff scale - in primary though, I can see you being exploited in the same way HLTAs are - in being expected to cover and lead/ know the kids and expected to plan rather than being given all the materials they expect you to deliver.

On supply you won't get paid over the holidays so you need to deduct that. They don't spread it over 12 payments like a full time teacher. You'll have periods without pay

Thank you everyone!

Highly doubt you will get supply for the full school year. Autumn term is usually pretty slow for supply as everyone is recharged and ready to go after 6 weeks off. A lot of absences are being covered in house too. We have sometimes split classes rather than paying for a supply. Times are hard for schools and 2bh we often find the supply teachers we do get in are a load of rubbish. Lazy and leave straight away without marking. Not a great impression!

It’s a bit of a game in that the higher your daily rate, the less likely you are to get work because they will call someone cheaper first. Supply has been tougher this year, more than any other.

If you stay at the same school for twelve weeks you get Agency Workers Rights so you have to get paid the same as a regular teacher, which is usually M6. However, what usually happens is that after a term you are no longer needed. Coincidentally.