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twinkletoesandshinybows · 26/04/2025 00:11

Name changed for this one.

To cut a long story short, my senior suggested three of us put in for workplace analysis. She was very supportive of this, gave us relevant documents we needed to compare, and explained we needed to show, from the documents, our justifications for requesting a salary increase. She did say she couldn’t look at our notes, but it should be fine and hopefully we get it. HR sent an invite out for workplace analysis meeting; didn’t think much to it, can’t speak for the others but my mindset was if we get it, great, if we don’t, fair enough. We were told we could contact the union rep prior for any advice but we decided against it, as we were happy either way with the outcome and didn't have any pressing issues prior.

The meeting was nothing like I expected - never had one before and felt completely overwhelmed. in the room was us, a HR representative, union rep, our senior and her boss. I suffer with crippling anxiety and at one point I just wanted to pick my bag up and leave. Our senior and one of my colleagues had several disagreements over a couple of key points in terms of their own role, and I just wanted the ground to swallow me up. HR said at the start we would go through each point in our job role and explain what we do differently to what is said - this was irrelevant in my eyes, because our concerns were another team on the same spinal point as us but with a different job title, do significantly less, but because the set up was looking at OUR job role, there was only a few points we could add to it. What I wish I’d done in hindsight is halted the meeting and said ‘look we are here because we feel Team A do more than Team B but are both on the same spinal point’ but I didn’t feel I was able to, because of the emphasis on our job and role that was on the board in front of us.

another colleague mentioned a few bits and pieces that they have been doing and referenced being a team leader, and was abruptly told that as per the staff structure, he isn’t a team leader. He explained that our line manager has said for the last 3 years + he is a team leader, he has staff who are answerable to him (but ultimately to her). Line manager at this point just glared across the table.

anyway - we didn’t get it, the process was awful, the 24 hours after it happened I spent in tears because I just felt like I’d caused trouble, and since it happened (7 weeks ago now) it feels like relationships in our team are really strained. One colleague just keeps his head down and doesn’t speak, the other is fired up and thinks the process is archaic, and in just feel really sad and worried, like I’m now seen as some sort of money grabbing trouble maker. I did bump into my senior in the staff room and after small talk she asked how I was since, then said that she was ‘blindsided’ at the comment I’d made (about rewriting a resource; she said it was her idea and her template, so I corrected her that my one was completely different, and had different content to hers) and had ‘no idea’ about the meeting until it went in her diary… she was the one who suggested we put in for it! (Albeit verbally, I don’t have any written evidence of this).

FWIW I’ve since heard our senior is on an action plan to rectify some of the findings that were outed- coincidentally she now avoids the three of us, tone is a lot colder, and seems to be trying to push us to one side.

im not in the playground, and I love my job, and I have complete respect for my senior and her manager and really got on with them both prior. I just feel now like I’m in the wrong and I’ve tarnished my reputation. My seniors manager however is completely fine - no animosity, very friendly and supportive still and has just moved on like water under the bridge. It’s just my senior.

sorry for the ramble, I just can’t stop thinking about it.

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NCThisOne · 26/04/2025 00:50

I've not heard of this before, essentially you had an opportunity to put forward a case for a pay rise and you didn't mind either way.

So to do this you had to explain why your job is different and deserves a pay rise. Bit weird as surely you should just be doing your job.

However you had concerns about a team doing less on the same spinal point, so felt maybe that the payrise was justified/assured on this basis.

I personally don't think it would have been a good move to highlight the other team as that's not your problem and not the purpose of the meeting, so wouldn't beat yourself up over that.

Obviously your colleague was honest but I also don't think his comment was very wise. I would feel disappointed in your senior tbh.

I think you may be having a double empathy problem I.e. overidentifying with your seniors issues, its more likely your senior is in the wrong and their reputation is tarnished.

shuffleofftobuffalo · 26/04/2025 10:37

So is it basically that you put in for a regrade/payrise, didn’t get it, but during the course of the meeting HR picked up that your senior isn’t doing their job properly?

No manager likes to be caught out not doing their job and of course they’re going to be annoyed at you! But that’s not your problem, it’s a situation of their own making. She will be backtracking on it being her suggestion because it’s a massive own goal for her.

It’s good that the more senior manager is being pleasant etc. But ultimately, try and hold your head high and wait for it to pass. If she escalates her behaviour start keeping notes of incidents.

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