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Unfair dismissal ?

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Sarahj94 · 14/03/2025 10:59

lad at work (21) works in the same bar I do ,He’s very reliable never takes holiday never calls in sick always goes above and beyond and I mean BEYOND the lad does everything asked of him and always has done ,he does the jobs nobody wants to do ,he’s got an extremely rough home life and frequently comes in the pub on his days off etc to escape this ,his Dad is the issue he’s a total nightmare ,truly. Boss keeps barring this lads Dad and then allowing him back in (think bc he spends money) it just causes issues though. Anyway yesterday this lad came into work he was upset very visibly distressed and upset (this wouldn’t be the first time but he sorts himself out and cracks on with it) 2 new members of the team were laughing at him for crying talking to his Dad around 10 minutes before his start time. Our boss goes over and says to him take yourself home ,the lad says “no honestly I’ll be alright in a second but doesn’t help when I’ve got people taking the piss outta me” referring to the bar staff laughing. Our boss says that’s not what’s happened but you’re unfit to work you need to go home. So the lad leaves and goes home after insisting that he stayed bc he needs the money. Anyway he’s sent home and his Dad was still in ,his Dad starts complaining about our boss and calls him
names. He gets removed. That night the lad goes up to another pub for a drink with a friend ,our boss walks into that pub minutes after him and walks up to him and sacks him ,no explanation or anything. He then gets removed from the rota and the chat and told he cannot step foot on the premises again. I asked multiple people who witnessed this whole day of events and what I’ve put is genuinely how it happened. However boss is telling people he’s had to let him go bc of multiple warnings,he was drunk when he turned up to his shift ,how he walked out and then went drinking instead ,boss is saying it’s gross misconduct bc this lad was intoxicated (he wasn’t) that he’s been warned before (he wasn’t) and now apparently he was aggressive aswell (he wasn’t) ,I’m dumbfounded,this has to be illegal right ? Can someone follow you around and fire you without warning/investigation ,no disciplinary ,following no procedure,follow you outside of work into a public place and then fire you just like that ? I’m sure this is an unfair dismissal,me and others who worked have caught this decision we have complained but boss is saying he’s well within his rights to do this ? Surely not though

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OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 14/03/2025 11:03

How long has he worked there?

IWillJustSayThis · 14/03/2025 11:05

It all sounds like a mess to be honest. My feeling is that it would all depend on how long the lad has worked at the bar for and if he has any protected characteristics.

Of course the behaviour by the boss is pretty awful but not sure based on the info given , if it is illegal.

IPM · 14/03/2025 11:07

Depends on how long he's worked there.

Neither of them sound anything like professional in this story, so probably best all round if he finds another bar to work in.

Differentstarts · 14/03/2025 11:09

How do you know he wasn't drinking prior

ExtraOnions · 14/03/2025 11:11

How long has he worked there?
Does he have a contract ? Or evidence of being an employee?

Yes this is unfair, boss sounds like an arse.. he needs to be elsewhere.

EmmaMaria · 14/03/2025 11:23

If he has less than two years employment, then there is nothing he can do, except possibly claim for notice pay. What is fair in peoples eyes and what is fair in law are very different things. And to be balanced about this, whilst I sympathise with the situation, he shouldn't be bringing his personal problems into work. His boss was correct in that regard, and it may well be that he had simply come to the conclusion that the regular drama was not worth it.

I am unclear how the boss was "following him around" when he had left work some time previously and the boss was still in the pub because he was being called names and removing the father, whilst the son went home and only later went to the other pub with his friend. Parts of this story make no sense, which is the problem when relying on third party rumours.

IPM · 14/03/2025 11:29

EmmaMaria · 14/03/2025 11:23

If he has less than two years employment, then there is nothing he can do, except possibly claim for notice pay. What is fair in peoples eyes and what is fair in law are very different things. And to be balanced about this, whilst I sympathise with the situation, he shouldn't be bringing his personal problems into work. His boss was correct in that regard, and it may well be that he had simply come to the conclusion that the regular drama was not worth it.

I am unclear how the boss was "following him around" when he had left work some time previously and the boss was still in the pub because he was being called names and removing the father, whilst the son went home and only later went to the other pub with his friend. Parts of this story make no sense, which is the problem when relying on third party rumours.

I am unclear how the boss was "following him around" when he had left work some time previously and the boss was still in the pub because he was being called names and removing the father, whilst the son went home and only later went to the other pub with his friend. Parts of this story make no sense, which is the problem when relying on third party rumours.

Yes this isn't clear to me either.

And why would he have to follow him to sack him anyway?

He could've done it by phone, or waited till he turned up for his next shift.

Sarahj94 · 14/03/2025 14:32

Differentstarts · 14/03/2025 11:09

How do you know he wasn't drinking prior

He seemed totally sober to me when he showed up to work

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Sarahj94 · 14/03/2025 14:34

IPM · 14/03/2025 11:29

I am unclear how the boss was "following him around" when he had left work some time previously and the boss was still in the pub because he was being called names and removing the father, whilst the son went home and only later went to the other pub with his friend. Parts of this story make no sense, which is the problem when relying on third party rumours.

Yes this isn't clear to me either.

And why would he have to follow him to sack him anyway?

He could've done it by phone, or waited till he turned up for his next shift.

He left our pub drove to the other pub within 10 mins of the lad getting there walked straight in sacked him and drove back to our place ,we suspect he has his location on snap ,or else he’s got people to notify him when one of us goes in ? Idk it’s very bizarre though ,he went purely to sack him it’s not like he saw him there whilst there or anything,if that makes sense

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IPM · 14/03/2025 14:37

Sarahj94 · 14/03/2025 14:34

He left our pub drove to the other pub within 10 mins of the lad getting there walked straight in sacked him and drove back to our place ,we suspect he has his location on snap ,or else he’s got people to notify him when one of us goes in ? Idk it’s very bizarre though ,he went purely to sack him it’s not like he saw him there whilst there or anything,if that makes sense

Maybe he wouldn't answer his phone then?

Are you going to say how long he worked there?

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 14/03/2025 15:57

You still haven’t answered the most important question. How long has he worked there? It matters if you are talking about unfair dismissal.

TallulahBetty · 14/03/2025 16:11

No one can advised ANYTHING unless we know if he has worked there for less than 2 years or more.

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