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Holiday entitlement

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Cattyisbatty · 17/12/2024 20:08

If you work part-time hours (for example 15) over a week, so 3 hours a day, what would be a fair holiday entitlement.
If going by hours, you'd be entitled to approx 84 hours which is 10.5 days I think for an 8 hour day.
If going by days, you'd be entitled to the full statutory 20 days.
Would it be 'fair' to only have 10.5 days off per year if you are working for 5 days even if you are only working 3 hours a day (as your days are short anyway).
Does the 'hours' type of entitlement only really work for those doing less than a full week.
I am about to enter in to a disagreement with my employer about this so any input would be useful!

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Doyouthinktheyknow · 17/12/2024 20:13

If going by hours, 3 hours would be deducted per annual leave day as that’s all you worked.

I’m NHS and everyone’s leave is calculated in hours, it works fine. Hours they would have worked that day are deducted as annual leave.

What exactly is the issue?

NotEnoughRoom · 17/12/2024 20:19

If you are in the UK:

Calculate holiday entitlement

Holiday calculator to work out statutory holiday leave in days or hours

https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

OddBoots · 17/12/2024 20:20

If it is 5 days a week (albeit only 3 hours per day) then it should be the same number of days as someone working 5 full days.

If your employer is reducing for hours and then also making it as if it is full days then they are making a double deduction.

Chasingsquirrels · 17/12/2024 20:20

Why would you apply 8h to the 84 though? You work 3h per day, so a days leave is 3 hrs. Divide the 84h by 3h and you get 28 days.

Bambooozle · 17/12/2024 20:22

Cattyisbatty · 17/12/2024 20:08

If you work part-time hours (for example 15) over a week, so 3 hours a day, what would be a fair holiday entitlement.
If going by hours, you'd be entitled to approx 84 hours which is 10.5 days I think for an 8 hour day.
If going by days, you'd be entitled to the full statutory 20 days.
Would it be 'fair' to only have 10.5 days off per year if you are working for 5 days even if you are only working 3 hours a day (as your days are short anyway).
Does the 'hours' type of entitlement only really work for those doing less than a full week.
I am about to enter in to a disagreement with my employer about this so any input would be useful!

You just get pro rata of full time. If full time is 20 days of 8; hours, you'd get your 20 days of 3 hours. So 60 hours which is the same as 20 of your days.

Plus a pro rata of bank holidays if you get them on top.

RockPaperS · 17/12/2024 20:23

If it is 5 days a week (albeit only 3 hours per day) then it should be the same number of days as someone working 5 full days
This, if you work the same number of hours every day over 5 days.

Or - and works even if you work a different number of hours every day:
Pro-rata in terms of hours BUT when you take a day off you only deduct the number of hours you were supposed to work that day, ie you don’t deduct 8h for each day off.

DreamW3aver · 17/12/2024 20:27

Why are you bringing an 8 hour day into it, you count 3 hours for each of your days

dementedpixie · 17/12/2024 20:34

You'd be entitled to 28 days of 3 hours i.e. 84 hours.

Or 5.6 weeks of 15 hours which also equals 84 hours.

When you have a day off you deduct 3 hours as that's all you're due to work each day

prh47bridge · 17/12/2024 23:48

If your employer is trying to restrict you to just 10.5 days annual leave due to you being part time, they are breaking the law. You work 5 days a week so you must get 28 days holiday a year (including bank holidays).

Cattyisbatty · 19/12/2024 12:20

Thanks everyone. Sorry for not returning but I only have mumsnet on my PC and it wsa out of action for a couple of days.
So the update is that I got some free legal advice through my DH's work, just to have it 100% confirmed, and then she backed down.
However, she did not apologise.
She claimed (when telling me I was only entitled to 10.5 days) that she had spoken to head office, ACAS, other HR professionals (lord knows who!) that agreed with her, but yesterday after my email stating 'I have taken legal advice' she said she called ACAS and they confirmed it should be 28 days inc bank holidays so I am vindicated - hooray!
There is other stuff going on, but I had to get this cleared up before I even considered the other changes she wants to implement (also asked the legal helpline about these but don't want to reveal too much online).

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